Xenos of the Emperor?

By Avrelivs, in Dark Heresy

Hey there, longtime lurker here. Had these little nuggets pop into my head. I think the first question was asked before, somewhere, but if it was then I neither remember where nor the answer.

Basically, what if the Imperium found out about a race that worshipped the Emperor? Maybe said race's Imperial Cult manifests as a Death Cult, where they're all humans who've been reborn into some kind of purgatory as aliens, and only through martyrdom in His service will they be reborn as humans once more and given a second chance to redeem themselves. Or maybe they think (or even could be) a 'lost tribe' of humans. Or hell, maybe Imperial legends correspond a lot to their own religions.

This isn't for any specific game, mind you, just wondering.

It really depends on. I could see some radical Ordo Xenos Inquisitors exploiting these missguided xenos for all their worth, while most others would probably view it as a first degree case of blasphemy and exterminate the aliens. So I don't think that even aliens who worshipped the Emperor would be welcome by the Adeptus Terra or the Inquisition within the Imperium.

Pretty much what Eichmann would have done to a bunch of Jews who voted for the NSDAP. Bless his good luck and kill them.

As the alien is not blessed with the pure form of humanity, they would be purged. This would be little to no different from a group of mutated humans who worship Him on Terra.

There are a few xenos who are allowed to live because they are considered useful to the Imperium- the Joekaero weaponshiths are the most famous example (actually, the only example I can think of...).

Jokaero are animals though, they're not intelligent. They're Grox with a special gift.

bogi_khaosa said:

Jokaero are animals though, they're not intelligent. They're Grox with a special gift.

but thats how the imperium justifies it, and by the way, the Jokaero are very intelligent, how else would they build 2 handed guns into a single fingered practically monomolecular form, and then for themselves build shifting forms of the weapon. The Imperium really likes that ability and so allows the Jokaero to survive by saying they are a form of livestock, preety much this cult of aliens if at all salvagable would become enslaved or exterminated.. no other outcome is possible

Darkmittens said:

but thats how the imperium justifies it, and by the way, the Jokaero are very intelligent, how else would they build 2 handed guns into a single fingered practically monomolecular form, and then for themselves build shifting forms of the weapon. T

The idea of animals with instinctive understanding of technology is an oldish sci-fi trope that GW probably got from The Mote In God's Eye: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mote_in_God%27s_Eye

Presumably they were genetically engineered. The same way as the Orks.

bogi_khaosa said:

Darkmittens said:

but thats how the imperium justifies it, and by the way, the Jokaero are very intelligent, how else would they build 2 handed guns into a single fingered practically monomolecular form, and then for themselves build shifting forms of the weapon. T

The idea of animals with instinctive understanding of technology is an oldish sci-fi trope that GW probably got from The Mote In God's Eye: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mote_in_God%27s_Eye

Presumably they were genetically engineered. The same way as the Orks. No intelligence involved. Well beyond rudimentary intelligence.

really?? i didn't know that! the grey knights codex i read made them sound fendishly intelligent when it came to tech...

Darkmittens said:

really?? i didn't know that! the grey knights codex i read made them sound fendishly intelligent when it came to tech...

I've never read that codex, but everything I've read describes them as animals in everything but ability to construct machines, which they do instinctively.

Darkmittens said:

really?? i didn't know that! the grey knights codex i read made them sound fendishly intelligent when it came to tech...

It's less intelligence and more intuition- put 2 Jokaero in different rooms, give them the same materials, and they'll more than likely come up with 2 entirely unique inventions, some the Imperium might actually be able to duplicate.

In any case, thanks for the answers, guys. What can I say- when curiosity bites, one needs to scratch

The idea of non-humans worshipping the God-Emperor is a theme in teh Black Library audio drama "Red & Black" - worth checking out.

after some more research into this topic i learned something rather interesting,

Certain powerfully influential figures (usually rouge traders), may send (along with a suffiecent quantity of thrones) a single member of an alien race to the inquisition (or an ally inside) to become OFFICIALLY SANCITONED, from this proccess the alien is assesed for potential in the imperium, and then if they pass (execution pending) they are allowed to follow inside of a portion of imperial space as an imperial citizen, however at all times these individuals must be accompanied by at least one person of higher authority who can vouch for thier sanctioning, and then they must have the proper paperwork, also they are limited to the amount of time they may spend on any given imperial world (a contract made usually to fit a rouge traders scheduel). these sanctioned aliens are treated similarly as sancitoned psykers, something that the imperium has said is ok, that doesn't make it any less untrusted, or attacked by fantatical PDF members or other gun toting crazies (which the alien may not attack back).

Under this section of imperial paperwork, the fictional race we find here, may be able to become sanctioned if they have a very usefull purpose, but only in ones and twos...but hey an inquisitor only needs one!

hope this helps

Darkmittens said:

...hope this helps

I think it helps a lot. This explain why there has actually diplomacy recorded with some xeno's (I remember a bit of fluff regarding the Tau).

The Imperium has plenty of diplomacy with alien races though sometimes this isn't officially recognised. Some planets/sectors trade with xenos not necessarily guns or the like but basic resources, with people turning a blind eye at various levels if they hear as long as it's harmless. You'll find references to eldar frequently as they have been in the background longer than say the tau and aren't trying to poach humans to join them. I recall a world trading with Eldar and getting Eldar wine as one of the trade goods.

There are many instances of the Imperium and Xenos working together, for example a regiment of Tallarn Desert Raiders and the forces of the Ulthwe Craftworld have pretty good relations after working together on several engagements particularily against Chaos forces.

Its possible that a faction in the Imperium might be ok with this idea but longterm that group would probably be declared heretics and traitors, or at least the members involved and the xenos burned. I can imagine a Xenos Hibris Inquisitor willing to put these Xenos to some use or keep them off official records, a dirty little secret but one that helps the Imperium in the form of resources... or possibly just the Imperium through the Inquisitor.