To Toad or not to Toad, that is the question...

By Darklord, in Talisman

I really do think there is a lack of toading these days, most games I play, I find no one becomes a Toad, thanks largely to Fate. Back in previous editions you would usually have at least one Toading a game, often more, now very little. sad.gif

For me becoming a Toad is one of those special Talisman elements that should be nurtured and encouraged!

So any suggestions on ways to get more toading in the game?

One thought I had is simply to ban Fate use to prevent Toadage, but is this enough, and are there better ways?

Daniel.

In my last games, i have change 2x in a toad! lengua.gif thanks to toadify..

But i agree that we must get more cards that has to do with toads.

This screams for a toad expansion! gran_risa.gif

Imagine a big toad on the front cover!

The addition of the Toad King is a big plus. But I agree, not enough toadifying. I'm not sure what to do about it either, though...maybe fate shouldn't be used with NPCs in general.

Toad king is made by the fans. including me lengua.gif

I have not used it yet, because i want to play with official stuff.

I recall a common 'house' rule to do with fate, which said it could not be used unless it was the players decision.

To if the enchanterous was to turn you into a toad, thats not your choice, so fate can not be used. Similar with the witch.

You can therefore use fate to effect your own die roles, but not roles that decides how another being behaves or what decisions another being makes. I think the gods are not considered to be a being, so you can use fate if you prey.

I think I like that. I'm not sure how my gaming group will feel. I remember in 2nd ed. how common it was to be hopping around, and I do miss that. Maybe I'll modify my version of the Ice Queen to include toadification too. Ice Toads! I even have some miniatures.

yyami said:

I recall a common 'house' rule to do with fate, which said it could not be used unless it was the players decision.

To if the enchanterous was to turn you into a toad, thats not your choice, so fate can not be used. Similar with the witch.

You can therefore use fate to effect your own die roles, but not roles that decides how another being behaves or what decisions another being makes. I think the gods are not considered to be a being, so you can use fate if you prey.

So what you're saying is that when you meet a stranger you shouldn't be able to use fate, but if you visit a place you can.

Another way to do it might be to look upon strangers as "monsters" and have the player on your left rolling the die for them. Not yout roll, not your fate. Right...?