HI guys,

I diodn't find this anywhere and maybe its obvious:

My opponent has church of Sigmar and Jade Acolyte. I play Long Winter on one of his developments (i have to target), my opponent uses the action of Jade Acolyte on that development in response. So its a unit when my long winter resolves. Do I have to pay an extra ressource because of the church?

Church says:

Kingdom. Opponents cannot target your units with card effects unless they pay an additional 1 resource per effect.

I think i dont have to pay the extra resource because i targeted when i was playing the action and before the development became a unit. When resolving the long winter the target is only checked if its legal.

Or is the targeting a card a kind of permanent thing?

Its not obvious , but you are correct. You only have to pay the extra 1R when you play the effect. If Church could add 1R on the target check as well, then it would actually cost 2R total to target a unit and resolve the effect.

And what is about Shield of Saphery ? If i play the Shield of Saphery in response to another action, that targets one of my units, does it cancel the other action? I recognize, that the Church of Sigmar says target , but Shield of Saphery has a targeted in his text. Is there a difference between these wordings or their rulings?

Another example for a card with a similar effect would be Spelleater Rune . But for this one, it is obvious (and well formulated), that it cancel the action played before the action (of the Spelleater Rune that targets a DW unit).

If i read those three cards and know about the ruling for the Church of Sigmar in this thread, i would say, that a resolved Shield of Saphery forbid to target the HE unit with future actions after resolving the whole chain, but it doesn´t cancel the actions on the chain allready targeting the HE unit.

I hope, this is an understandable argumentation.

Church of Sigmar (Support):

Kingdom. Opponents cannot target your units with card effects unless they pay an additional 1 resource per effect.

Shield of Saphery (Tactic):

Action: Target HE unit you control cannot be targeted by opponent’s card effects until the end of the turn.

Spelleater Rune (Support):

Action: Sacrifice this card to cancel an action just played that targets a DW unit you control.

I think I understand your question, and the answer is the Shield of Saphery does prevent anything already on the chain from targeting your unit. The reason for this, is that effects check for valid targets when they are played *and* when they resolve. So if I target your guy with Chillwind, and you play Shield in response, your Shield resolves first, then my Chillwind checks its targets again (it just checks to see if they are still legal, it doesn't re-target them) before resolving and finds that it can no longer target your unit to corrupt him. The other unit I targeted with Chillwind (to uncorrupt) still gets uncorrupted, because the entire effect is not canceled.

In the case of Spelleater Rune, my Chillwind would be completely cancelled and would not uncorrupt my unit.

Thanks.

"The reason for this, is that effects check for valid targets when they are played *and* when they resolve. "

And this doesn´t count for the Church of Sigmar (seems to me, that the chruch only affects the check for valid targets when the effect is played) because of the target , but is true for the Shield of Saphery , because it says targeted ?

Is this right?

The difference between "target" and "targeted" is not important here.

An effect cannot be played unless you have a valid target. When you play that effect, it targets the respective cards at that time ("triggering" the effect on Church). When it resolves, it checks those targets again, to make sure they are valid, but it doesn't target them again, so it doesn't trigger Church a second time.