Hi There

Meereen reads ;

Challenges: Kneel Mereen to choose 1 participating Dragon character you control. Until the end of the phase, that character gains "Immune to opponents' trigggered effects." If you win the challenge draw 1 card for each participating Dragon character you control.

Lets say the above player has chosen a Dragon character to recieve above text, so my question in this.

Is the Dragon character now immune to Shaggydogs triggered effect ?

Now I thought NO as there is no direct interaction between Dragon Character and the triggering effect of Shaggydog text, as I have to kneel a Direwolf as the trigger and then choose a character to take the -2 strength reducer.

Targ player thinks chosen Dragon character cannot be chosen for the -2 of Shaggydog Attachment.

Thanks

Shaggydog's effect is indeed a triggered effect, and it's yours, so Meereen makes the dragon immune to it. The word « choose » means that what is chosen is a target of the effect. Something that is immune to an effect cannot be chosen as a target for it, and is not affected by it, even if it is not a target (an effect that affects all of something, for instance).

But all of the effect is not interacting with Dragon character as I'm not triggering the effect against the Dragon character, I'm triggering the effect against a Direwolf then choosing a charater to get -2.

Are you 100%.

Thanks

Kneeling the Direwolf is the cost of Shaggydog's effect. The target is the attacking character you choose to take -2 STR. The wording "do X to do Y" means X is the cost and Y is the effect.

End Hill said:

How do you figure that the triggered effect is not "against" the Dragon character?

1. What is chosen as the target of Shaggydog's ability? The Dragon character.
2. What is the -2 STR from Shaggydog's ability applied to? The Dragon character.
3. What is left with a lowered effective STR for the rest of the phase, reducing its effectiveness in challenges, etc.? The Dragon character.

Seems like a lot of negative stuff happening to the Dragon character for an effect that is not triggered "against" it.

Go back and look at the definition of immunity. It says that, a) whatever the card is immune to cannot choose it as a target, and b) any effect applied directly to the card by what is immune to is ignored. Shaggydog's triggered ability is trying to to both. It is trying to choose the Dragon character as a target AND apply an effect (-2 STR until the end of the phase) to it directly. Seems to fit the definition of immunity exactly.

What is it about "all of the effect is not interacting with the Dragon character" that makes you think the effect - applied directly to the immune card - should get through. What kind of effects would interact "only" with the target card - since they all have to come from somewhere?

Ok, thanks guys. We was playing it correctly and I understand the target of Shaggys ability is the Dragon as the -2 is being applied to the Dragon. We sort of already knew that, but then i got hung up on thinking that we might of been interpreting the text incorrectly and then all of a sudden Im drawing "twilight zone" conclusions as to what the card text means.

Thanks.