Painting the minis.

By King of Terror, in Doom

Very nice stuff, Interceptor :) I hope you don't mind if I draw some inspiration from your minis :D

I painted 12 zombies meanwhile, and just finished a Revenant. I turned my blog into some kind of painting journal, so if you want nearly up-to-date pics of my progress, that's where to look :P

Here's that first Revenant then:

Revenant

It took nearly 2 hours, if I continue to paint minis at this rate I'll be done in a few years :D

Interceptor said:

I did not like the space marine miniatures that came with the Doom game, so I painted three Warhammer space marines, and these turned out bad ass in my opinion. Regardless of your feelings toward Warhammer or Games Workshop, the Warhammer 40K space marines are super cool.

Hm, I wouldn't do that. I actually like GW overall, I am using their colors and all too and wouldn't want it any different, but I feel the Doom Marines have nothing in common with the WH40k Space Marines - starting with the fact that they aren't Space Marines but just Marines, they are mercenaries protecting some crazy company's Mars assets and not elite warriors of some god emperor, they don't have redundant organs nor fight Orks but rather are overwhelmed by a unprecedented "alien" invasion from hell, and they have nothing like servo armor ... if I were to use GW minis as Marines (I'm thinking about it, actually), it'd have to be some kind of Imperial Guard guys...

haslo said:

Interceptor said:

I did not like the space marine miniatures that came with the Doom game, so I painted three Warhammer space marines, and these turned out bad ass in my opinion. Regardless of your feelings toward Warhammer or Games Workshop, the Warhammer 40K space marines are super cool.

Hm, I wouldn't do that. I actually like GW overall, I am using their colors and all too and wouldn't want it any different, but I feel the Doom Marines have nothing in common with the WH40k Space Marines - starting with the fact that they aren't Space Marines but just Marines, they are mercenaries protecting some crazy company's Mars assets and not elite warriors of some god emperor, they don't have redundant organs nor fight Orks but rather are overwhelmed by a unprecedented "alien" invasion from hell, and they have nothing like servo armor ... if I were to use GW minis as Marines (I'm thinking about it, actually), it'd have to be some kind of Imperial Guard guys...

That's where Scout Marines come in, they're perfect for the job. But for me it looks better with Power Armored Space Marines since I use Tyranids against them.

Scout Marines indeed do sound very tempting! I think you just convinced me!

haslo said:

Very nice stuff, Interceptor :) I hope you don't mind if I draw some inspiration from your minis :D

I painted 12 zombies meanwhile, and just finished a Revenant. I turned my blog into some kind of painting journal, so if you want nearly up-to-date pics of my progress, that's where to look :P

Here's that first Revenant then:

Revenant

It took nearly 2 hours, if I continue to paint minis at this rate I'll be done in a few years :D

How about some details on how you did that? I like the way the armor came out

King of Terror said:

How about some details on how you did that? I like the way the armor came out

Sure, thanks :) In fact, I'm making a picture series with the other 5 now, I started with them yesterday.

First, that high-pigmented Red Gore thing, I painted the lower arms and the red parts of the armor with that. The silver parts of the armor were painted in Boltgun Metal next, fixing those bits where the red got out over its borders. After this, I had to correct some mistakes where the red got into the black surroundings, and made sure the borders between red and silver were clean. Next, I drybrushed the bone bits liberally with Bleached Bone, the lower arms with Dwarf Skin. Then I washed the entire armor with (quite a lot of) black, and the rest of the miniature with that oger wash (a light brown).

This left the bones too brown and not entirely bone-looking, but with the liberal brushing from before it set a brown tone and made the low parts not all too black, too. Then, I drybrushed the torso (this time, including lower arms) with Bleached Bone again, this time less liberal, so the brown still shows up in places and gives the figure more depth, and the red tone is still visible in the lower arms as well.

The armor was, at that point, pretty finished already in fact. What I did then was highlight the red parts of the armor with Blood Red, not with drybrushing but with just thin lines where the highlights should be, to make it more metallic, and I did the same with the silver parts and Mithril Silver. Since both those colors are pretty similar to what's below, they don't stand out too much and just give a nice highlight.

Finally, details were added, this included only the eyes and the rocket launcher's lights (with tiny white spots, to make them "shine" more).

I'll post again when the picture series is online on my blog :)

If you are getting a few scout marines, I suggest modelling one with a bolt pistol and a chainsword, one with a shotgun and one with a bolter. Since most scenarios have the marines start with 1 chainsaw, 1 shotgun and 1 machine gun, they'll nicely represent who has what, and still looks good too.

Knuckles Eki said:

If you are getting a few scout marines, I suggest modelling one with a bolt pistol and a chainsword, one with a shotgun and one with a bolter. Since most scenarios have the marines start with 1 chainsaw, 1 shotgun and 1 machine gun, they'll nicely represent who has what, and still looks good too.

I actually got them already, and decided against using bolters or chainswords - they're all either equipped with bolt pistols and knifes, or shotguns. The bolters and chainswords remind me of WH40k too much lengua.gif - but that's certainly a matter of taste. I was set back by their price though, I remembered them being expensive but it was way more than I expected serio.gif On the other hand, their degree of customizability is awesome, so I guess it was kinda worth it in the end.

I did however get 2 packs of scouts, I'll paint 4 each in blue and red and 2 in green, like that I'll have ample minis for CTF matches as well.

I just used 3 marines from different chapters (Salamanders, Ultramarines and Blood Ravens) for both scenario, DM and CTF. But for DM I also have Imperial Fists (yellow), White Scars (white) and Black Templars (black), and CTF, I used Tau Fire Warriors in the T'au sept colors with red, blue and green shoulder pads. It makes no sense to have Space Marines vs Space Marines in a CTF

What would the best paints be to use? Reaper? GW? Delta? There is a guide online where someone did his Doom minis with Delta paints and they look really nice.

King of Terror said:

What would the best paints be to use? Reaper? GW? Delta? There is a guide online where someone did his Doom minis with Delta paints and they look really nice.

Though I never painted my Doom Miniatures, I did paint my WoW TBG miniatures and I used GW paint, they're awesome paint (not to mention the paint I always use for any miniature painting I do)

And I bet haslo also uses GW paint for his minis, I recognise the paint names he used.

So I was reading around and if I give the mini a dark primer coat it should take care of it from being to bright of a figure in the end? I want to make sure I get a dark tone to my figures. So I want to make sure I do the right things

Sure enough it will stay dark if you don't highlight it too much or drybrush with a too light of a color

Yes sticking with a dark primer helps to keep the colours a bit on the dreary side and that works given the subject manner. I personally use a black primer on pretty much everything I do unless they need to be brighter and the colours need to really stand out. That Revenant looks great! I painted mine like that with the harness being the colour of their base is. My players hate Revenants and when I place them on the board all painted up the players hone in on them and deal with them accordingly.

CanadianPittbull said:

My players hate Revenants and when I place them on the board all painted up the players hone in on them and deal with them accordingly.

My players hate those dogs (as they like to call them), since they can never slink by without getting bit (thanks, watchful)

Yeah, I'm using GW colors exclusively. It's partially because I started to paint with them back when I played Warhammer 40k, and partially because those paints are really good. All my paints were lost over the course of the last 10 years, what with me moving 3-4 times and the colors getting old and dry anyway, but I got a pretty complete collection of new colors now because I remembered them to be great, and I didn't regret it - they still are.

As for primer, I'm using black primer as well, indeed because it helps keep the minis dark and spooky. Back in the days I had mostly white primer and then painted the minis with a first dark color (and regularly, black), it just makes more sense to prime them black from the outset.

I now completed the other 5 Revenants, and made that little step-by-step blog post I talked about. I did it particularly with you in mind, King of Terror, please let me know if it helps to give a little insight into the whole painting process :) - of course, you don't have to do all these steps from the start, my first minis looked entirely different and back then, I made way less extensive use of drybrushing.

Here's the complete group of 6 Revenants, as a teaser:

6 Revenants

King of Terror said:

So I want to make sure I do the right things

I wanted to add something regarding this happy.gif It's a good thing that you're careful and you don't want to waste your minis, but when it comes to painting them, the best thing you can do is indeed get some colors and start painting. The way you want your minis to look, the exact technique that fits yourself, that will only come to you over time if you actually paint. The first few minis won't look exactly as you want them to, but only practice makes perfect.

So get some colors, start head-on in and start painting :)

Ach Hans, Run! It's the mob of Revenants ! lengua.gif

Quote from Magic the Gathering , a card called 'Ach Hans, Run! It's the ...' which lets you say it along with a name of a card and you get to take the card from your deck right away.

Now that I said it time to send 6 revenants at my marines partido_risa.gif

haslo said:

King of Terror said:

So I want to make sure I do the right things

I wanted to add something regarding this happy.gif It's a good thing that you're careful and you don't want to waste your minis, but when it comes to painting them, the best thing you can do is indeed get some colors and start painting. The way you want your minis to look, the exact technique that fits yourself, that will only come to you over time if you actually paint. The first few minis won't look exactly as you want them to, but only practice makes perfect.

So get some colors, start head-on in and start painting :)

Believe me I want to. I was gonna get all the GW paints from there site. I already have a work station set up. but my wife wants me to lay plastic down EVERYWHERE! So I got to wait on all that.

haslo said:

Yeah, I'm using GW colors exclusively. It's partially because I started to paint with them back when I played Warhammer 40k, and partially because those paints are really good. All my paints were lost over the course of the last 10 years, what with me moving 3-4 times and the colors getting old and dry anyway, but I got a pretty complete collection of new colors now because I remembered them to be great, and I didn't regret it - they still are.

As for primer, I'm using black primer as well, indeed because it helps keep the minis dark and spooky. Back in the days I had mostly white primer and then painted the minis with a first dark color (and regularly, black), it just makes more sense to prime them black from the outset.

I now completed the other 5 Revenants, and made that little step-by-step blog post I talked about. I did it particularly with you in mind, King of Terror, please let me know if it helps to give a little insight into the whole painting process :) - of course, you don't have to do all these steps from the start, my first minis looked entirely different and back then, I made way less extensive use of drybrushing.

Here's the complete group of 6 Revenants, as a teaser:

6 Revenants

This was great! This will help me out a lot!

The Doom miniatures I've seen painted here look great. I am going to try to get some better pictures of mine posted. The ones I have at photobucket are too dark to see a lot of the detail. I still stand-by using Warhammer 40k marines, but that's just me. I thought the 40k marines looked so cool, I just needed an excuse to paint them. I like the idea of the Warhammer scouts, too, but the scouts, IMHO, don't look nearly as cool as a marines decked out in full battle armor. Besides, when you set a scout mini next to a fully painted cyberdemon, the idea of the scout in minimal armor being able to withstand any kind of attack from the giant demon seems implausible. At least a 40k marine in full armor looks like he could take a few hits before the cyberdemon chomps him in two.

Either way, I think the Doom game rocks, and the miniatures, especially when painted, really add to the gaming experience. I can't wait for iD Software to release Doom 4 . Hopefully FFG will support the release with a new expansion to Doom TBG . Long live Doom!

I used to only use GW paints, until $ got tight and GW got expensive. Now, I use Kmart Fresh 'N Easy spray paints at $1.39 a can and craft store craft paints such as Delta Cermcoat, Crafters Edition and Folk Art, all acrylics and all around $1 for a 2-oz bottle. And a half-pint can of Minwax polyurethane stain for dipping and quick shading.

I sprayed my Doom creatures with brown primer spray, then flat red for a color that is close to GW's scab red. This gave the figs a nice hellish blood and fire look. Yellow eyeballs, bone-colored horns and talons, burnished copper and gunmetal for the cyber parts, and a good brushing of Minwax followed by some Krylon Matte Varnish. (The zombies got more human tones for their paint jobs.). For bases I mixed some gray and brown up to try to match the Doom floor tiles and painted thin stripes of blue red or green on the bases to keep track of them for the game.

I reckon it took me about 8 hours over a long weekend to paint them all.

The only GW paint items I still use is flesh wash and armor wash. I don't see a quality difference between their paints and the craft store paints I now use, except the craft store paints don't dry out nearly as fast as GW.

I mostly use GW paints (still using GW paints/pots from the 90's) and have been mixing those in with the Folk Art paints. Not a big fan of the new pots for the GW paints as I find they dry out faster. I bought a few and man they don't hold up well to the old school pots with the rubber plastic white lids.

I actually took a good week to get mine done as I worked on all like critters and then painted incorporated the base colours into their scheme along with painting the red, blue or green on the lip of the bases. I left the bases black so that the lip colours stood out as did the figures themselves. We might be playing a game this weekend so I will break the camera out and take some pics of the action to show folks.

I used all GW paints, and I was pleased with the results. I primed mine in Chaos Black...just spray painted them all black. This worked well in several areas where I didn't really have to shade; I just left some of the black visible and then highlighted around it. This worked well around eyes and in the decomposing flesh of the zombies. For my zombies, cacodemons, imps, vagary, and mancubus, I painted them a simple grey (Codex Grey with GW paints). I then shaded in black and highlighted in Bleached Bone. This worked really well, and seemed to match the images of the invaders from the Doom game fairly well. I painted the zombie clothing in a color to match the miniature (such as blue, green, or red clothing). I washed these brighter colors to darken them and then highlighted them sparingly. I painted the cacodemon's exposed brain Blood Red, washed it in Chaos Black, and then highlighted it with a mix of Blood Red and Skull white for a dark pink highlight that went over the darkened Blood Red base coat. It came out looking really good. I varnished all my miniatures with matte varnish, and I then painted some gloss varnish over the cacodemon's brain and tongue and gums to give it a moist, slimy look. When it was all done, it looked so real it kinda' creeped me out. I also used gloss varnish on the maggot's tongue. The maggot I painted all black and just highlighted sparingly in Codex Gray. I gave it Blazing Orange eyes. This very simple color scheme worked very well actually. On the gaming table, the maggots look quite sinister.

For the archviles I just painted them in Bleached Bone, washed them in Snakebite Leather, and then highlighted them again in Bleached Bone. They came out looking very similer to the archviles in the game, and they were quick and easy to paint in this fashion. I could paint an archvile in this way in about 10 to 20-minutes. The hell knights were a little more tricky. I painted them in Bestial Brown and shaded with Chaos Black. Be careful not to wash in black, just shade in black. What I mean by this is, I just shaded in certain recesses of the miniature...all the indented areas, like around the abs, between the fingers, the teeth, the ridges on the head, etc. I then did an overall highlight across the whole hell knight with Snakebite Leather. Don't do this until the shaded areas are fully dry. The Snakebite Leather highlights brightened the Bestial Brown somewhat, and then on prominent areas I highlighted again with Bronzed Flesh, but sparingly...like over the abs and chest, along the ridges on the back and head, etc. It came out looking pretty good. I painted the face and portions of the head Scab Red with some Blood Red highlights. This gave the hell knights a real monstrous, demonic look, especially after painting its teeth with Bleached Bone. If I left the head just brown like the rest of the body, it kinda' had an apish look. However, with the red on the face, it gave the miniature a real demonic appearance. I painted my cyberdemons in pretty much the same fashion, though I used more Bronzed Flesh highlights to give them a lighter appearance than the hell knights. I painted the metal parts of the cyberdemon in Boltgun Metal, washed this in Chaos Black, and then highlighted with Mithril Silver. This gave the metal parts a real industrial, dirty look...wicked bad! I also painted the metallic parts of the demon dogs in this fashion.

Anyway, I had no preoblems with GW paints and I was pleased with the results. On the gaming table two or three marines facing down a hoard of painted Doom monsters is **** cool.

I think I'll use some gloss varnish in places as well, particularly the Cacodemon brain, but some other places (Trite mouths, for example) could really benefit from that, too. Thanks for that tip!

I think I'll steal the red Hellknight head as well, I think I saw that on the Geek on one or two models before and it really does make it look demonic.

As for my own progress, I've meanwhile painted the Cacodemons and the Trites. I don't have that much time beside Uni and work, so I progress pretty slowly, but it's a nice break from pretty much everything else, as painting is currently the only kind of manual work I do - unless you count typing and writing.

Here's the Cacodemons:

Cacodemons

After the black primer I painted them in Mechrite Red, brushed sparingly with Blazing Orange, then washed with Devlan Mud, and finally brushed with Blood Red. Some bits ("ear" insides, eye sockets) then got an additional Badab Black wash. The brain also got a Mechrite Red base, then I brushed it with Dwarf Skin, washed with Baal Red, then sparingly brushed with Elf Skin, and finally highlighted with Skull White. The eyes are Goblin Green, the teeth Bleached Bone. Inside the mouth, I brushed some bits with Mechrite Red first, and then the very highlights with Golden Yellow.

Aand, the Trites:

Trites

Their legs were painted with Necron Abyss, the "head" bit with Tallarn Flesh. Then I washed the head with Ogryn Flesh. Next, the legs were brushed with Space Wolves Grey and the teeth painted with Bleached Bone, and finally the entire miniature was washed with Devlan Mud - I had to wash one leg first and let it dry, to be able to wash the rest all at once. The eyes are Blood Red with a Skull White highlight, and the tongue was accented with Red Gore.

For the Spider Queens, I think I'll add another drybrushing layer to the legs, between the Necron Abyss and the Space Wolves Grey, probably Codex Grey mixed with some Chaos Black.