Just a quick question to clear up a doubt our meta had yesterday: does Archmaester's Wrath bypass the approppriate immunity of any given character? That is, if my opponent has only Cat of the Canals out, can I use Archmaester's Wrath to get rid of her, seeing as Archmaester's Wrath is not targeting any charachter but your own (I think) and it's my opponent that is actually discarding the character?

Thanks!

tovra.pt said:

If I have Cat o' the Canals in play, your Archmaester's Wrath is still an opponent's card effect -- the discard happens because of *your* card, no matter who does the actual discarding. Cat o' the Canals's immunity would protect her here.

OK, that's a lot of "opponent's" and "your." I got a little lost, so let me go through some of the details of this.

1. If the word "choose" shows up in the effect, whatever is chosen is a target. So the statement "Archmaester's Wrath is not targeting any character but your own" is untrue. Every character chosen to be discarded is targeted by the effect.

2. In a corollary to #1, always look at what is being chosen, not who is doing the choosing. When an event says "choose a character," it doesn't matter which player is making the actual choice - the event is targeting the chosen character.

3. As Saturnine said (or was trying to say), since the event is targeting the character - and the event's effect is doing the actual discarding - you always look at the "opponent's effect" thing from the point of view of who played/controlled the event.

So, taking #1 and #2, "immune to events" characters are completely protected from AW. Looking at #3 tells you that it is the same for any event effect that tries to hid Cat: if the person who controls Cat plays the event, she's vulnerable. If someone else plays it, she is not.

Ok! Thanks for your answers!