Any idea when we will be seeing Borimir? I have seen the card pic...and I was under the assumption that we were getting him this time around and not Brand. Anyway, any ideas?

DurinIII said:

I think he was coming in the Marshes pack, second to last? Next one? Can't recall.

Boromir will be the hero in the dead marshes. As for thoughts, I am dying to load him down with Dunedain Marks and Warnings. He won't mach Gimili's ability to chew through high end opponents in a single swing, but he can handle crowds of opponents better than anyone we have seen thus far.

Bohemond said:

Exactly, good point. This is a great addition and something that is really needed. It's something that is always frustrating about Gimli. His big swing always seems to come around so infrequently. We don't really have someone who inherantly (without attachments) can deal with multiple enemies. A little crowd control is a much welcome addition.

Here is a Boromir question for you. You are playing 4 player massing at Osgilith. Is it worth it to sacrifice Boromir in your first turn?

Can anyone tell me where I can find a pic and stats for Boromir?

silverhand77 said:

Here to serve:

www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/705597/new-hero-boromir-dead-marshes-expansion

Bohemond said:

Yes Boromir is really promising guy. Looks like he is the best hero since core set. I already see him in my deck.

Can't remember the exact wording on Boromir - would he work with Landroval?

Mighty Jim said:

No, the ability does not work with Landroval. It is the first ability (the readying one) that makes him so great, though.

Can definitely see Boromir being a favourite. Would love to see one or two more defense 3 heroes though - at least in tactics/spirit - and would have thought Boromir would be a prime candidate.

Cletus said:

You know, when I was guessing the stats, I have come to think the attack and defense would be swapped. But as it is, I believe it works better that way. Perhaps someone like Beregond could have 3 defense if he ever comes to be a hero, which is quite unlikely.

Glaurung said:

As a solo player I am really excited about Boromir because enemy management can be a bit of a problem right now. It's mostly solved by a large number of allies and the few cards that ready others (like Unexpected Courage), but with Boromir there is no limit. With his ability you could play Gandalf to lower your threat, attack three enemies with Boromir, and still come out ahead in the threat department. He will replace Legolas in my Spirit/Tactics deck I mess around with.

Puzzle said:

Sure, the quests with multiple enemies will be especially Boromir's prime league. No other hero can deal with those better now. Borne Aloft is good to have for Gandalf to come one extra time, to keep the threat low enough.

Also, the beginnings are now easier, it could often be a disaster to get an enemy one could not defend. To raise threat by 1 in order not to get an undefended damage is a very good deal.

I right there with you Puzzle; looking forward to Borimir...just surprised to see two tactics heroes in a row. I can't wait to have this guy in my fellowship...I love tactics too.

DurinIII said:

When Borimir was first revealed a couple of packs ago a friend and I were discussing the way heroes would be released and it looks like they're heading in the direction of (Lore-Spirit-Leadership-Tactics-Tactics-Leadership-Spirit-Lore) or (abcd-dcba). That would make things even and would make our two dwarves in khazad spirit-lore heroes!

Boromir has turned out to be very promising. I'm glad he gets the love he deserves! The release schedule of the heroes (if it is a "schedule" at all) is fine with me, although I would also have taken another lore hero, because Bilbo never got much love in our playgroup. But back to Boromir: Love his abilities - not only flavor-wise, but also the mechanics behind it. I will certainly try using him in my Spirit/Tactics deck (alongside Eowyn and Dunhere) which is pretty good a threat management...

I can see Boromir's second ability as a "closer" type of effect. As in you may have 1-2 enemies to defeat and you can win the game. You can sacrifice Boromir and be done right there and then. This could happen right after the attack phase when those enemies are already wounded and ready to be killed. I'm bummed that this effect doesn't work with Landroval's effect, although I can see how that could be a bit overpowered. Tactics is getting much needed love. Obviously, the first effect combos well with spirit and their threat reducing abilities.

Nice discussion guys. So, I think Bilbo is just too underpowered for his cost.

DurinIII said:

You wouldn't think that if he were a 6 though would you? I'm convinced it's a mistake and they were so behind on production for HfG that they decided to let it go.

I am there with you on Bilbo. He is way too weak. Should not be so. Him and Glorfindel are two of very few flaws I see about the game which I totally admire.

As for Boromir, I think his best suited companions are Eowyn & Imrahil. Horn of Gondor is well fit there for the "leaving play" strategy.

Yeah...if Bilbo were a 6 he would be worth it for sure! I mean, yes, the extra card is nice, but why not just play Beravor for 1 starting threat more and get an extra willpower, attack, 2 extra life, and the option to draw 2 cards each turn? Bilbo looks very unplayable next to this non-plotline gal. grrrr.

DurinIII said:

I actually use Bilbo in my multi-player games and he works fairly well. Sure, he could be a 7 threat hero instead of 9...but he isn't useless. The card draw is nice for the team and you can still use him to quest or defend if need be.

Bilbo is not useless in the game. But he was the BIG thing in the novel. Game-wise, the comparison with Beravor is there, and he pales into shadow. Unless you want to have both, I really cannot see choosing him instead of the chick.

I would rather take Bilbo over Berevor any day. Bilbo's automatic card draw is far better than exhausting a hero for card drawing as then you are a hero down for other actions.

Same reason why I don't rate Boromir. He's good but his second ability is pointless. You end up a hero down and at present there is only one card to bring a dead hero back.