D&D 5e is on it's way.

What do you suppose they'll steal from wfrp3? Or do you suppose just another regurgitated fleecing of those left that still play that game?

jh

I was thinking about this the other day. I was thinking it would be cool to add modifier dice, much like Misfortune and Fortune dice, to the d20 roll. I also love stress and fatigue and could see them trying to do something similar.

Cards.

Product packaging/release strategy.

Maybe custom dice, Like a unique one to collect for each and every class, why roll a vanila d20 when you can roll on expensive custom ones?

Where did they announce 5e?

4th Edition had just come out. Why are they pushing out another edition?

Maybe not selling enough?

If so, it is likely to get yet another overhaul.

IIRC the estimate by WotC was that 4th ed. would have a five-year lifespan and then be replaced. Five years should be next summer so...

However, according to my FLGS, WotC is cutting back on its involvment with RPGs, the market is too crowded and 4th ed. is not the revenue-machine that they hoped. Unless someone has other news there might never be a 5th edition. Not that I care either way, the last 2/3 editions were enough of a let-down (and I never played D&D before 3rd ed) that I won't be investing in a 5th edition.

4e was the best thing to happen to the roleplaying industry since 1st edition. It drove so many people away from D&D that entire new avenues of gaming were able to open up! Unfortunately, I consider 4e to have been such a colossal screw-up, as to perhaps even damaged the industry at the same time, also driving people away from the hobby forever towards what D&D catered to: the mmo crowd. Anyone who was on the fence about whether to permanently leave the hobby, made the b-line then.

The coat-tails of the d20 ogl were rife with opportunity to be "pseudo-D&D" and now those same companies can move on to better systems. I think with the 5e, people will feel sufficiently fleeced as to tell them to stick it. Fool you once, it's called 3.5. Fool you twice, and it says something more.

Emirikol said:

Waaaaaaaaaaaaa?

Already? What's that sound I hear?

Several wizards, living by the coast, scrapping the bottom of a barrel.

Wow...

Just Wow..

Rampant speculation and miss information. Well done on one of the worst posts I have seen on this board.

4E is either the first or second best selling RPG on the market. It's fine not to like it but the rubbish spewed in the posts above is just a waste of time.

I am not sure I understand the point of the question, unless it is just to bait people in to an RPG game system argument.

Warhammer is a great game and was innovative enough that people across the industry are no doubt looking at it and the lessons it has to offer. Will a new edition of DnD use any of these lessons...

Who knows. One thing is certain no one who post in response to this message will have the faintest idea.

I'm afraid I have to agree a bit with AVJax... I'm so tired of fans of one product feeling the need to hate on another.

I mean I really like Warhammer, obviously, or I wouldn't be here. But to be honest, I actually somewhat prefer D&D 4th Edition for a few reasons and I do not understand for the life of me what people hate about it. I think it's an absolutely fantastic game.

But whether you like it or not, a huge amount of players and DMs agree with me on that account. The game is not a flop by any means, nor is it a soulless product rushed out only for the purpose of making ridiculous amounts of money, at all. Don't you guys remember the accusations thrown at the current WFRP edition? I'm not sure what you guys think but, really, that kind of cheap cynicism is just not what people like James Wyatt, Chris Perkins and Rodney Thompson are like. I'm convinced of that.

Anyway, I'm not interested in a 5th edition of D&D just yet. I think 5 years is nowhere near enough to really get the most out of it and on top of that, I am very, very happy with the current version.

played various forms of d&d since 1986.

as a dm i found 4e to be far superior to previous editions ( i skipped 3.5)

in fact the power cards bear a striking resemblance to WFRP3 action cards. having the rules for powers out of the books and on the table or in the hands of the players was fantastic.

when i saw that WFRP3 had taken this a step further i shifted to WFRP3, was gutted that they didn't have creatures as cards.

i've been toying with the idea of making creatures and their action cards more like the d&d4e format.

I don't see 4e going away for a while yet. Sure it has its weak points, but from my DM seat and my players' feedback, its the best version of D&D yet. We love it and still play it. Yes, I love WFRP, but that doesn't mean I can't love D&D at the same time.

Emirikol said:

Double-check your source on that, Emirikol. I just googled "D&D 5th" and the front page of the search results was comprised of April Fool's jokes, several admitted hoaxes, and a couple of ridiculous trolling threads (all locked) on various gaming forums. Notably there was not a single thing looking like a legit press release. Someone pulled a fast one on you.

if anything warhammer needs to steal the DnD encounters from 4E or pathfinder society play from paizo. pathfinder and 4e dominate the store shelves and table space at both gaming stores near my house while warhammer 3E is tucked away in the corner.

I believe the speculation about 5e coming about is partly being brought about because WotC has hired on Monte Cook. Monte was a key designer of the 3rd Edition rules. Monte later left the company to found a smaller successful line of products based on the 3.0/3.5 rules (Arcana Evolved). There are rumors that I have yet to see cited that claim Monte disliked the 4th edition rules.

The combination of him joining wotc, the fact that 4th edition,while successful, was not as successful as 3.0/3.5, and that the 4th edition has had a few years under its belt, is likely the reason for the sudden surge of "5e is coming" posts.

For the record, I am not advocating any version of the DnD rules here. Given the right players (or DM/GM for that matter), I would play any version of the game.