Neo Deadly Rave

Static: If this attack was played as your first form of the turn, it is unblockable and you may not play any cards from your hand for the rest of this turn.

Mujin Kyaku

Karin E Discard 1 card: This attack is unblockable. If this attack deals damage, the Combat Phase ends.

Criminal Past

E Commit, lose X vitality: During the block step, this attack is considered to be completely blocked. X equals half of this attack's damage (rounded up).

Would I be able to use the E on Criminal Past on an attack that is already unblockable, like New Deadly Rave, or would I have to use the E before the attack is made unblockable, like with Mujin Kyaku? Even though I can't play a block due to it being unblockable, can my foundation consider the attack "fully blocked"?....I think I'm repeating myself, but it's late, so meh.

I do not believe that Criminal Past (or any other card that does the same thing, like Vimana), will work on an unblockable attack because if an attack is unblockable then you skip the block step of the attack. Because Criminal Past happens in the block step, it wont work. You could still play the ability and lose vitality, it would just have no effect.

unblockable means you skip the block step entirely, so barring using stuff like Pull of the Tides, Riquo* or Empire's ruin Unblockable always beats any ability that sets up a block like tycho or criminal past. thats the most recient ruling i remember seeing.

N.J.

babelfish666 said:

*STAMP* important bits to remember highlighted

NJBrock22 said:

however if I am wrong(and this is to see if I am). If I use criminal past before Majin Kyaku makes it unblockable, it will still be blocked during the block step.

No ... an unblockable attack cannot be blocked as the block step, which apply the blocked state, doesn't exist on an unblockable attack. May you use the blocking ability before or after the unblockable effect, it doesn't matter.

If your ability doesn't specifically state that the attack cannot be made unblockable or is no longer unblockable, then the block step is skipped.

And an ability that state " this attack cannot be made unblockable " won't do anything if the attack is already unblockable when you play it.

nevermind. find the new rule that can't overrides can. disregard.

Can't vs. Can doesn't even factor here. An unblockable attack has no block step - it gets skipped entirelly - so there is no window whatsoever for a block to happen, be it from an effect or from a card.