Simple and Easy I think.
Play Spinning Beats enhance for multiple 2.
Can I then use Elena's enhance to give the original Spinning Beat multiple 1 and then play that multiple enhance as well?
Simple and Easy I think.
Play Spinning Beats enhance for multiple 2.
Can I then use Elena's enhance to give the original Spinning Beat multiple 1 and then play that multiple enhance as well?
as long as you have given her Void through her support, No Eggs or Seal of Deprivation, yes you can. there is no restriction that she cant have multi twice on it outside of 2 other attacks being before it in the card pool. Do note there is no rule that says there cannot be multiple instances of a keyword ability on a card, see Mai with cards that already have stun and Chun-Li5 with Kicks that have multi, etc.
N.J.
Except that Elena's ability specifically states "Your attack gains a keyword (your choice) that it does not already have (except throw)."
dakkon said:
Except that Elena's ability specifically states "Your attack gains a keyword (your choice) that it does not already have (except throw)."
unofficial stamp for this guy
*slaps self...* duh missed that last part of her ability, ignore my old post.
N.J.
i could be completely wrong, but i thought i remembered reading on the old STG boards that if a keyword ability had a different value, then it was considered 'not the same keyword' so Multiple: 1 and Multiple: 2 would be two 'different' keywords?
They are two different instances of the same ability. They are played separately and as such are canceled separately.
rC(
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i could be completely wrong, but i thought i remembered reading on the old STG boards that if a keyword ability had a different value, then it was considered 'not the same keyword' so Multiple: 1 and Multiple: 2 would be two 'different' keywords?
Baranor is right in the general case.
BUT here, elena's ability specifically say to had a keyword ability on an attack that doesn't have it already. Here "keyword ability" refer to the keyword alone, not it's value. Thus you cannot add multiple on an attack that has it already with her ability.
Yes you can however play an ability that add say multiple 1 to an attack that has already multiple 2, but not Elena's ability.
Multiple 1 and multiple 2 when present on the same attack are 2 separate keyword when playing them, but again, Elena's ability refer to the keyword alone, not keyword + value.
rC(
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i could be completely wrong, but i thought i remembered reading on the old STG boards that if a keyword ability had a different value, then it was considered 'not the same keyword' so Multiple: 1 and Multiple: 2 would be two 'different' keywords?
I could also be wrong; we'll see.
nothing to "see" - it's spelled out in the ability clearly.
elena cannot give multiple to an attack that has it already. period.