I ran into the following situation in a game:

My revealed plot has a claim of 1, my opponent's is Tourney for the Hand (his Knight characters get +1 STR and are immune to character abilities). I'm attacking with Feral Pack (while I control only Stark characters -which is the case-, all Direwolf characters gain Deadly and all non-Direwolf characters lose Deadly) and another Direwolf. My opponent defends with The Laughing Storm (who has Deadly printed), another Knight (whithout Deadly) and a third character (also without Deadly and not a Knight). Thanks to some STR boosts, I win the challenge. My opponent chooses the non-Knight defender to satisfy the claim, leaving 2 Knights in the challenge. Does he have to kill one of the Knight to satisfy Deadly?

Khudzlin said:

TLS does not lose his "Deadly" because the character ability taking it away does not affect him. However, you have 2 Deadly characters and he only has 1. You win the Deadly count, 2-1. One of his defending characters has to die.

Another point to clarify here is that keyword abilities like Deadly do not count as character abilities, so the knights are not immune to being killed by Deadly despite the immunity granted by the plot.

Hi I run in a similiar situation,

but we can't judge who is right….

situation was :

I had Ellaria Sand (PotS), and Nymeria Sand (PotS) out, opponent had Catelyn Stark (LoW) attached with Crown of Winter (LoW), I attacked with Ellaria ,

he says I can because , Catelyn is immune to Nymeria Sand ability provide mil icon to Ellaria, so I can attack with mil. icon … he recalls to rule

(3.14) Effects of Immunity A card with immunity ignores the effects of card types to which it is immune.
When determining immunity to event cards and character abilities, check the effect of each card. A card's immunity only extends to effects that would ordinarily be applied to cards of the immune card's type.

but can it be that te ability must affect target? to be immune againts it ?

according to

(3.19) Scope of Immunity
Immunity only protects a card itself. Peripheral entities attached to or associated with a card, such as attachments, duplicates, power counters, gold tokens on the immune card, and also including triggered effects originating from the immune card, can still be affected by cards of the type to which that card is immune, as long as the affecting cards do not target the immune card

thanks…

although he would say that he has right no matter what… but still thanks,

blashkowitch said:

Immunity only extends to protecting the card itself. Catelyn Stark is not directly affected by Nymeria Sand's ability to give Ellaria Sand the MIL icon. The character ability for Nymeria Sand is only directly affecting Ellaria Sand in your example, so it does not matter who else has this type of immunity. A character ability CAN be used in a challenge when there is a participating character that has immunity to it as long as the ability is not used on the immune character.

Catelyn Stark's immunity does not extend to keeping other cards that are in play from being affected by character abilities. She is the only one who cannot be affected by character abilities.

I hope I understood your question.

You are correct. Catelyn's immunity (granted by the crown) only protects her, individually, from the character abilities of others. You cited the parts of the FAQ perfectly.

Nymeria Sand's "gain a military icon" is not trying to do anything directly to Catelyn, so her immunity does not interact with it at all. If immunity protected Catelyn from anything that could indirectly impact her, then where would be the limit? Would her immunity stop you from using Maester of the Sun to save one of your own Martell characters because Catelyn "ignores" the save? (Catelyn is free to "ignore" the save - but since the saved character doesn't ignore it, it seems pretty clear that it knows it's still alive, even if Catelyn doesn't.) Would her immunity stop Arianne from raising the claim on your plot card by 1 because Catelyn "ignores" the increase? (Catelyn is free to "ignore" the increase to the plot's claim number - but since the plot card doesn't ignore it, it seems pretty clear that it knows it's claim value is 2 when the challenge resolves, even if Catelyn doesn't - and is surprised to find herself smacked down.)

Giving Catelyn immunity to opponent's character abilities does not force a "Catelyn-centric" view of the entire game. Her immunity is a shield, not a new reality. As the FAQ clearly says, she can only ignore things that are applied directly to her; it does not allow other characters or players to ignore anything else.