first to see this??

exiting stuff words cannot explain how much i want this

You beat me to it...

WANT!

Love it. And with the spoiled quest cards we know two out of three scenario names.

3 copies of player cards = win! though with 9 encounter sets that might not leave much room for player cards.

Can you say, "viable dwarf deck?"

yes and the new dwarrowdelf packs that follow!

I totally called this one!

Get to take out our frustrations on more trolls. Khazad! Khazad!

Now I'm pumped. Going to go play.

Oh yeah, play this while staring at the box art.

I think a lot of us were expecting and waiting for this :-)

I'm not interested in the smaller packs, but I will pre-order this one - hope FFG will print enough. However, I counted on it have 50% player cards and 50% encounter cards... hope this is the case... if there are only two new heroes - I will be disappointed...

Also, the box art seems beautiful, just if it is a large box like the core game I won't have space for it :-(

I am so excited for this! I want it now dagnamit!

Interesting to get a hint into how the game may be formatted going forward. It seems to suggest that the next cycle's encounter decks will not need Core Set's encounters. I like that. I think by doing this, they may be providing for starting points for future new players. Get the core set(it doesn't seem like these deluxe expansions will bring enough player cards on their own), a deluxe expansion and start from there without having to buy every adventure pack ever made beforehand. You can pick and choose those. I know this is becoming an issue in Warhammer and it seems like it may be avoided here.

Titan said:

Honestly, I'm hoping that they might use cards from both the core set and the Khazad Dum expansion together in Adventure Packs. More combinations means more replayability.

koraldon said:

There are two heroes. Including the heroes in the APs and core sets, that's 20 heroes, 14 if you only have the core set and this expansion. Quite a variety. Buy an AP and see how you like it. They're all pretty good so far. At least get Carrock. The box size for the deluxe expansion will be 8x8x1.5 inches. The set has 165 cards. Even if only a third of them are player cards, that still leaves room for four new cards per sphere and one or two neutral cards. That alone increases the card pool by about a third for players who only own the core set. Plus three new scenarios, bringing the number to six scenarios for you, and up to twelve (13 with Massing at Osgiliath on POD) for people who purchase APs. Why are you disappointed?

Svenn said:

I suppose they could. The Core Set will still have to be bought for the sake of having a player card pool. Probably will see a lot less action, I hope. I wonder how many player cards will get in truth. Nine encounter decks is quite a bit. If we go by the Core set's encounters we could assume an average of 12 or so cards per encounter. That's 108 encounter cards. Leaves 57, which in threes is 19 cards. I think qwertyuiop might be right, we may be looking at about a third of them being player cards. That may end up being about 20 player cards here.

sorry guys - can't give you a decent comment about the Khazad-Dûm Expansion, because in constant Jizz-Mode - thus, my status: Jizzing on loop

Svenn said:

AND YOU BEAT ME TO IT TOO!!!

When is it coming out, and how much will it cost??

I WANT IT!!!!!!

Looks great. I hope one of the Dwarf heroes is Dain.

ffggoalie1 said:

December might be a sensible guess, since the current cycle is slated to finish in November. Wonder if we'll see a Balrog now that we've been threatened with older and fouler things than orcs?

Titan said:

I figure the Balrog might be the big baddie for the hardest of the three scenarios, this set's Nazgul. Though maybe the scenario will be about escaping before he can attack you.

Man, I am excited. Still working on getting my copy of Rhosgobel (game seems to be selling well around here) and I'm eager to see the rest of the Mirkwood cycle but this Khazad Dum announcement has me all tingly in my special place. I was thinking we might see two adventure pack cycles between each expansion set so seeing that one is coming in 2011 was surprising news.

I need a new job. Gotta support my addiction, you know how it is. *twitches*

I feel the same way. Due to moving this summer I just picked up the past two AP's and I haven't even had a chance to play through Rhosgobel yet. Now they announce this to tease me even more. I need to save up my pennies to make sure I am all caught up by the time this comes out. This is a pre-order for sure.

More card pictures in the about section on the "Khazad-Dum" area -

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_npm_sec.asp?eidm=103&esem=1

Epic! The Dwarves are so going to have their day/year in 2012

Brilliant. This sounds absolutely perfect.

165 cards - same size as the standard big-box expansions for AGoT (and probably Warhammer etc?)

like the 9 encounter sets / 3 cards ratio - seems like we'll get the max mileage from the encounter sets with the next cycle- really like the fact that the encounter sets will be re-used in the next cycle. I like the current quests, but there's only so many times I want to see the same Orc, Eastern crow, or get caught in a web.

Be interested to see what the card ratios are- probably won't be masses of player cards, hope they make them good ones.

I do hope they manage to stick to their 4th quarter of 2011 release date. We'd have it in time for Christmas in that case

At last: A combo for Gandalf's Search! (Zigil Miner)

qwertyuiop said:

Simple: My gaming budget is limited, so between RPG's and board/card games, getting the deluxe expansion will eat up my funds for this game.. so no AP's for me.
Since the core set is limited by itself for deckbuilding, my hope is that using it together with the first deluxe expansion I will get decent (not great) deckbuilding options - including a new hero for each sphere for the variety, and enough players cards. My assumption was that since the small expansions have 50% player's cards and that the core set has ~80 encounter cards, that it was reasonable to expect the deluxe pack to have a 50%/50% split between player and encounters - and still have 3 new quests.

As I have said, I'm still going to pre-order, and we have to remember that we don't have the final info on the product - so it might 50%/50% and I wll be one very happy camper. But even if it will have ~33% player cards, I will still get it ...

Shelfwear said:

YEAH! Gandalf's search to the rescue! No... wait... it still sucks