Hurricane/plot questions

By WolfgangSenff, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

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Hey all,

It seems like there should be an easy answer to these two questions, but I've sufficiently confused myself on the issues that now I don't know the difference between my butt and the hurricane outside my window.

1) With Focused Offense, if I use Qartheen Rookery to flip to a different plot, can I continue initiating challenges like it never said, "You may only initiate one challenge." (And further I can now defend challenges as well?)

2) If I use Qartheen Rookery to flip Focused Offense, but have already initiated two challenges, can I still initiate one final challenge, or is its text already in effect, dashing my hopes?

Thanks,

Kyle

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ktom discussed that here...

ktom said:


Focused Offense must be your revealed plot in order to limit you to declaring only one challenge. If you use a Rookery (or some other effect) to change your plot after declaring that 1 challenge, the plot effect would be gone and you could declare more challenges.

As to whether declaring 1 challenge and then changing your plot to Focused Offense, I think that since the plot does not specify a particular timeframe (eg, "this round," "this phase," etc.) that its effect starts when it is revealed and ends when a new plot is revealed. That means you can declare only 1 challenge after it is revealed -- until it is replaced. If it counted challenges that were declared before it was revealed, wouldn't it count challenges that were initiated in previous rounds (it doesn't, after all, say "this round"...)?


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Skowza said:

ktom discussed that here...

ktom said:


Focused Offense must be your revealed plot in order to limit you to declaring only one challenge. If you use a Rookery (or some other effect) to change your plot after declaring that 1 challenge, the plot effect would be gone and you could declare more challenges.

As to whether declaring 1 challenge and then changing your plot to Focused Offense, I think that since the plot does not specify a particular timeframe (eg, "this round," "this phase," etc.) that its effect starts when it is revealed and ends when a new plot is revealed. That means you can declare only 1 challenge after it is revealed -- until it is replaced. If it counted challenges that were declared before it was revealed, wouldn't it count challenges that were initiated in previous rounds (it doesn't, after all, say "this round"...)?

Ahh, excellent, thank you. I couldn't find that. Much appreciated. Cool that it works (in the way I want it to) both ways!

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WolfgangSenff said:

Cool that it works (in the way I want it to) both ways!

I agree, but I'm actually having some success using FO without the Rookeries. If nothing else, it seems to be really intimidating when my opponent has to decide if I'm going to try and grab 3 power (usually followed by Superior Claim or Make an Example) or wipe out his board.