Stay tuned for next week!!!

By FFGSteve, in UFS General Discussion

Someone want to poke Steve slightly to remind him that we're still waiting? ;)

The way the area's gotten sacked by the weather might have something to do with it ;) don't know about him but we've got so much snow its a merricale theres still power... *anxiously waits* Your move Steve :D

Halbard100 said:

The way the area's gotten sacked by the weather might have something to do with it ;) don't know about him but we've got so much snow its a merricale theres still power... *anxiously waits* Your move Steve :D

Steve sent me an email saying he will be out of the office this week doing something for business so we might have to wait till next week .

Scubadude said:

Steve sent me an email saying he will be out of the office this week doing something for business so we might have to wait till next week .

NOOOOOOooooooooOOOOOOOoooOOOOooOOOoOOoOoOoo!

...ok

guitalex2008 said:

Scubadude said:

Steve sent me an email saying he will be out of the office this week doing something for business so we might have to wait till next week .

NOOOOOOooooooooOOOOOOOoooOOOOooOOOoOOoOoOoo!

...ok

i hope steve huries. hearing people talking about tekken, gg, etc is way over my head (becuase i don't play any of those games.)

Same, a friend of mine is a GG master, he said if this gets it he'll switch card games :D Got me to play it and I see why so many people want it in here, brilliant game and lots of great material for UFS. Either way, I still can't wait for whatever it is

Homme Chapeau said:

MegaGeese said:

Didn't Kenpachi Mishima have some sort of title in Tekken 5? Wasn't he the ultimate god of fighting or somesuch?

Something like that, I'd need to pull out my copy of Tekken 5 to know, and that's just a bit more work than I'm willing to do right now.

*assuming you meant Jinpachi...*

Bah, Jinpachi is no such ultimate god or anything. He probably just talks like that because he's, well, the last boss, and has to talk all awesome. Jinpachi is actually very peaceful by nature, and then he got infused with Devil's power, and uh, yub, he has a hole in his chest n' stuff. Otherwise, there's nothing godly about him.

For all you people claiming it's an expansion...

He's went on to say that it's something he's wanted for 3 years, which is longer than this game's been around, I'm pretty sure. Something tells me it's something a little bigger than just some expansion. That was probably more of a hope.

Vagabond Aeon said:

Same way they did Hanzo in KOF2006 and Samurai Shodown, I'd assume. Same character, different game.

actually they are two different hanzo's Samurai showdown had the original Hanzo while kof has the decendent. His title is similar to that of the yagyu where the leader of the clan takes the title of the founder. The current Hanzo is the grandfather to Mai shiranui which is seen in one of the ufs cards in Kof 2k6.

Vagabond Aeon said:

Same way they did Hanzo in KOF2006 and Samurai Shodown, I'd assume. Same character, different game.

actually they are two different hanzo's Samurai showdown had the original Hanzo while kof has the decendent. His title is similar to that of the yagyu where the leader of the clan takes the title of the founder. The current Hanzo is the grandfather to Mai shiranui which is seen in one of the ufs cards in Kof 2k6. The same applies for Yoshimitsu since he is the leader of the clan He inherited that title.

Oh man, Steve might slip out of divulging the new license, AND the Valve post on their blog says stuff about updates but seems worded explicitly to let them weasel out of unleashing the Scout update within this week...

WHY, WORLD!? WHY HAVE YOU GIVEN MY SUCH FALSE HOPE THIS DAY

At this point, I'm going to guess we won't be hearing from Steve until Friday.

joe10lo said:

Vagabond Aeon said:

Same way they did Hanzo in KOF2006 and Samurai Shodown, I'd assume. Same character, different game.

actually they are two different hanzo's Samurai showdown had the original Hanzo while kof has the decendent. His title is similar to that of the yagyu where the leader of the clan takes the title of the founder. The current Hanzo is the grandfather to Mai shiranui which is seen in one of the ufs cards in Kof 2k6. The same applies for Yoshimitsu since he is the leader of the clan He inherited that title.

Well, even so, they promote them as the same Hanzo, at least character wise. If it is the Tekken franchise, then I can't wait.

Cena said:

joe10lo said:

Vagabond Aeon said:

Same way they did Hanzo in KOF2006 and Samurai Shodown, I'd assume. Same character, different game.

actually they are two different hanzo's Samurai showdown had the original Hanzo while kof has the decendent. His title is similar to that of the yagyu where the leader of the clan takes the title of the founder. The current Hanzo is the grandfather to Mai shiranui which is seen in one of the ufs cards in Kof 2k6. The same applies for Yoshimitsu since he is the leader of the clan He inherited that title.

Well, even so, they promote them as the same Hanzo, at least character wise. If it is the Tekken franchise, then I can't wait.

Oh yeah your absolutely right it makes it really easy to promote since that way they dont have to say hanzo the 33rd. Thats just me being a video game know it all. Its one of those things I love to do. I wish they had a where the character comes from on Commit one. There are so many interesting stories and back ground for our characters cards.

Imagine that Tekken and KOF were licensed. To answer the King thing, it's easy to add a simple keyword.

"G:F" Only

"G:M" Only

Sure, it reeks of sexism, but the only real use of it would be to add G:F Only to a King (KOF) Only card so G:M King can't use it.

So when is this announcement being made?

well since its already thursday im guessing it wont be until friday that they release the new info

guitalex2008 said:

Imagine that Tekken and KOF were licensed. To answer the King thing, it's easy to add a simple keyword.

"G:F" Only

"G:M" Only

Sure, it reeks of sexism, but the only real use of it would be to add G:F Only to a King (KOF) Only card so G:M King can't use it.

The problem, Guitalex, is that the TR is set up so that any two characters with the same name (regardless of dots) can stack/merge.

Hanzo (SSV) and Hanzo (KoF2006) can be merged, even though they're not the same character... Since one might as well be the reincarnation of the other, no one will complain. The same thing will happen with Yoshimitsu if they get Tekken. Same name? Same ninja clan? A few hundred years doesn't make much difference.

So, if you want to have King (Tekken) and King (KoF) and _not_ let them merge (letting them merge would be really weird), they'd have to modify the rule in the TR that says to stack characters, they must have the same name (ignoring dots) and the same vital statistics.

BUT, there have been some errors (namely Huitzil) where two different versions do _not_ have the same vital statistics. The two Huitzils have different weights. With a vital statistics limiter on stacking, you couldn't merge the two Huitzils.

There's another option. They could modify the stacking rule in the TR so that to stack characters, they must have the same name (ignoring dots) and the same license (usually bottom-left corner). This would let Huitzil's stack, but prevent different Kings from stacking.

BUT, it would also prevent Yoshimitsu (SoulCalibur3/4) and Yoshimitsu (Tekken) from stacking, which I think is sad, and it would prevent Hanzo (SSV) and Hanzo (KoF) from stacking, which I think is sad.

Worse, such a rule would prevent Yoshimitsu (SC3) and Yoshimitsu (SC4) from stacking (or any character from SC3 and their counterpart in SC4), because the SC3 license is separate from the SC4 license. Likewise, it would prevent stacking Ryu (Streetfighter) with Ryu (MvC2) and Ryu (Puzzle Fighter/Pocket Fighter) if they're ever lucky enough to get those licenses. This is really silly since, while those are different licenses, they ARE the same character.

Well, it's the infamous one-and-a-half new licenses, and the fact that it's a single deal (not to get too much into semantics, but that just seems to be the case here) means it's probably with a single company.

In other words, Tekken and the full Soul Calibur series. Not a massive fan of Tekken, but I would like to get Cervantes' awesome golden parrot suit from the Dreamcast SC.

Another option would be splitting the SNK titles and adding a third, like maybe Mark of the Wolves or something.

ARMed_PIrate said:

guitalex2008 said:

Imagine that Tekken and KOF were licensed. To answer the King thing, it's easy to add a simple keyword.

"G:F" Only

"G:M" Only

Sure, it reeks of sexism, but the only real use of it would be to add G:F Only to a King (KOF) Only card so G:M King can't use it.

The problem, Guitalex, is that the TR is set up so that any two characters with the same name (regardless of dots) can stack/merge.

Hanzo (SSV) and Hanzo (KoF2006) can be merged, even though they're not the same character... Since one might as well be the reincarnation of the other, no one will complain. The same thing will happen with Yoshimitsu if they get Tekken. Same name? Same ninja clan? A few hundred years doesn't make much difference.

So, if you want to have King (Tekken) and King (KoF) and _not_ let them merge (letting them merge would be really weird), they'd have to modify the rule in the TR that says to stack characters, they must have the same name (ignoring dots) and the same vital statistics.

BUT, there have been some errors (namely Huitzil) where two different versions do _not_ have the same vital statistics. The two Huitzils have different weights. With a vital statistics limiter on stacking, you couldn't merge the two Huitzils.

There's another option. They could modify the stacking rule in the TR so that to stack characters, they must have the same name (ignoring dots) and the same license (usually bottom-left corner). This would let Huitzil's stack, but prevent different Kings from stacking.

BUT, it would also prevent Yoshimitsu (SoulCalibur3/4) and Yoshimitsu (Tekken) from stacking, which I think is sad, and it would prevent Hanzo (SSV) and Hanzo (KoF) from stacking, which I think is sad.

Worse, such a rule would prevent Yoshimitsu (SC3) and Yoshimitsu (SC4) from stacking (or any character from SC3 and their counterpart in SC4), because the SC3 license is separate from the SC4 license. Likewise, it would prevent stacking Ryu (Streetfighter) with Ryu (MvC2) and Ryu (Puzzle Fighter/Pocket Fighter) if they're ever lucky enough to get those licenses. This is really silly since, while those are different licenses, they ARE the same character.

Well I can see another way around the King overlap. Depending on which Tekken they pull from, they can always just use Armor King. Then, there's no overlap. But you do have a good point. Maybe instead they could just state the game instead of the license.

Or how about we don't follow some insane weird rule, and just say you can only stack characters who have the same name and GENDER. This way, then Huitzil can stack on himself (indeterminate), Yoshimitsu's from SC and Tekken (M) can stack and so can old Hanzo and reeeeally old Hanzo (M) while preventing King from KOF (F) to stack or be stacked by King from Tekken (M).

or we can just find out if either of them have a last name <_<

quarzark said:

or we can just find out if either of them have a last name <_<

Tekken's "King" and "King II" are two different characters. King only appears in Tekken 1 and 2, while King II is in every game from 3 to 6.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_(Tekken )#King_II

so, IF the license is Tekken, it will most likey be "King II" that we get as a character, and naming him as such will leave the door open to broaden the KoF license without worrying about overlapping names.

there. done.

ed: btw, "King" is dead. there is only King II

"A street urchin was brought up in a Mexican orphanage owned by the original fighter to bear the name 'King'. By the age of 24, this wrestler worked hard with King until one day, news broke of King's tragic death at the hands of Ogre."

Dunjohn said:

Another option would be splitting the SNK titles and adding a third, like maybe Mark of the Wolves or something.

Technically Mark of the Wolves is Fatal Fury, which is included in the general idea of KoF.

For example, the Terry "Another" outfit seen on the set 10 version of Terry (brown flight jacket) is from MotW.

Tagrineth said:

Technically Mark of the Wolves is Fatal Fury, which is included in the general idea of KoF.

For example, the Terry "Another" outfit seen on the set 10 version of Terry (brown flight jacket) is from MotW.

Who was present in KoF2006 as Wild Wolf.

So we may see Kyo in his schoolboy outfit sooner than later. And we've already seen Ralf in the Armor Ralf outfit getting beat on.

Why you guys still talk about this? Guitalex said it right...

it's a Dawson's Creek Battle Pack.

It HAS to be this... this is too good!