Hello all! Here I come again, for (hopefully) a few explanations regarding rules. So, in the spirit of learning more about the game, I went and tried to read the FAQ (again), to get a better (and hopefully correct) grasp on the rules of AGoT. So I get to this part of the FAQ

"(3.26) Duration of Control Change
Unless otherwise stated (for example, with a
specified duration), the change of control is
permanent until the card that switched sides
leaves play or control of the card switches
again via a card effect.

Note that attachments that grant control effects
end when the attachment granting control
leaves play."

(emphasis mine) and once again my not-so-well-constructed rules construct that lives in my head went to the ground. So, with this bit of explanation given, I'd really like to know what happens in this scenario:

My opponent has a character with Horn of Dragons attached, and takes control of my dragon character during the Challenges phase. I play Ill Tidings, targeting the Horn of Dragons, and it gets destroyed.

So, what happens now?

1- Does the dragon stays in my opponent's side of the field until the end of challenges?

2- Or, as per the bolded part of the quoted text, I immediately regain control of my dragon?

My meta has been playing like 1), but reading the FAQ I was kind of... well, reaching for an explanation. The way it is written it almost seems that 2) should be the way it should be played, as the attachment that gave control was destroyed. I understand that what probably happens is that Horn of Dragons creates a lasting effect (I don't know if that is the appropriate game term), and once control of the dragon is gained by my opponents, it isn't the Horn granting control anymore, but the "game" itself. But if that is the case... at least to me, the FAQ got me confused. Glad we have you guys!

Any insight into this would be very much appreciated! Thanks!

EDIT: forgot to provide the links. Sorry!

Ill Tidings - http://agot.dbler.com/index.php?view=card&arsenalid=29019

Horn of Dragons - http://agot.dbler.com/index.php?view=card&arsenalid=29070

When you use the Horn of Dragons, you create a lasting effect that starts when the attachments is used and stops at the end of the phase. Beyond the precise moment when the attachment is triggered, control change is granted by a lasting effect, not by an attachment or an attachment effect. It's no different than any other lasting effect, triggered from a card in play, that goes for its entire duration, not depending on the card that originated it being in play after the original triggered effect resolves.

So the whole "control change by an attachment ends when the attachment leaves play" only applies when the attachment's own continuing effect is what grants the control change. It is essentially confirming that an attachment that says "take control of attached character" only lasts while the attachment is in play - like any other continuing effect.

So yeah, sorry, but you are reaching a bit on applying that "ends when the attachment leaves play" to any effect that originates from an attachment card. You cannot ignore the way that triggered effects that create lasting effects work. The sentence does not represent an exception to that basic rule. After all, it is really the lasting effect, not the attachment, that is granting the continued control change.

Thank you ktom! I figured that would be the explanation, yes. In fact, without ever reading the FAQ about this specific rule, I always played it like that: even if you break the attachment you keep the character if the timing is specified. I just wanted to make sure, because I've realized lately that I've been playing wrongly in some aspects of the rules (sometimes the end result is correct, but for the wrong reasons), and wanted to be certain this wasn't just another of those cases.

With that being said, maybe you could *nudge nudge wink wink* at the developpers so as to clarify that sentence, no? Or am I the only relatively inexperienced player that could be mislead by that specific section/phrase of the FAQ? A phrase like yours would be sufficient: "When the attachment's own continuing effect is what grants the control change, that control change ends when the attachment leaves play." (Or something along those lines) I'm not a lawyer, or anything (so I have no expertise or experience writing rules), and I just want to try and help, and this seems a very small aspect of the FAQ that can get new players (not only to AGoT but in LCG's or TCG's in general) a little confused.