They already know about it, I sent them a copy of the book on the crystal, further I sent them info on how to find the planet. I do my duty to the Chapter, that was part of the agreement between my chapter and your dynasty.

Further, as long as you do not lie or fight the blood ravens they will not attack you. The safety of this ship and her crew is part of the deal, meaning the chapter will not summarily destroy you with out notice.

Besides there is more than enough to send a small sample to the Librarium. Felix brought over trees worth after all.

BangBangTequila said:

I already tolarated to an extend that you kept the secret from the Adeptus Mechnicus of the Holy Space Fortress, the location of the remain of the holy forge and I have to hide the Abominations on board...

Now you want to show the crystall the the littl epeople and keep the POWERS that be out of the loop? Beware Rogue Trader, I have means beyong yours to send communication do not anger me further. For now I will be in my laboratory until we have a satisfactory solution, until then my menials and apprentice shall see to your needs Rogue Trader, in case of emergency see the Secondus.

Oh? Now I'm curious how you managed to send all this, given our inability to even scan anything, and the fact you have no transport. So, how and when did you do this?

Just for the record, anything I say here is OOC, so you know, your characters still don't know any of what I've postulated.

EDIT

Plus folks, so so you recall, you both are representatives of your respective organization. So, especially in the case of Felix and the Ad Mech, I haven't kept anything from them. Now, a refusal to surrender the crystal off the ship could be construed as an attempt to contained heretical artefacts for the good of the Imperium. Under no circumstances does the Imperial Creed nor the tenets of Imperial Authority say "thou shall not possess that made by the Alien, unless you're a blood raven or mechanicus" so you know, you have no greater right to it then me. One could even say that seizing some may be a hint as to personal...ambitions...

Asthropaths don't need sensors. unless you specified orders to the asthropaths, then you will probably have a face to face with the Librarian to explain yourself.

Secondly, well there is probably a few "renegade" crew members looking for personal profit only, a tight lazer beam sent to a receptor, is very hard to detect and one of the most secured way of transmission once we reach Port Wander. You will have to sensure your crew and that will attarct attention...

The few power armors and archeotech weapon we display will attarct further attention, divination and psyker intrusion all together will be made by rival rogue traders. I find your path dangerous and without logic. To insure right away the alliance of the Blood Raven and the Adeptus mechanicus will insure we have the propoer support to restore and hold the Space Fortress.

Hey it's 40k everything is about black and white! What is white to you is black to me, now why and where is totally a RP choice!

Adeptus Mechanicus are the only rightful leaders IMO...

Well, you know. I suppose we'll see who the Astropaths like more, and whether or not people can manage to steal Crystal from some Alpha Level psychic warriors. I'm glad i got to buy the minion myself. Good help can be so hard to find...

If anyone wishes to roleplay any meetings, use my email, just CC Timeless so he stays in the loop.

No need my lab is sealed anyway, I have my collection of crytall tree and the 2 archeotech weapons I am studying, plus my armor I am customizing. I am busy enough.

OOC

Once at Port Wander, any one can pay an astropath Bang.That's what i mean.

Once at Port Wander you loose control on the crew as they go for shore leave, they will spread the story over to much amesac, unless you prevent shore leave (good luck with the resulting moral)... even then that won't stop the more resourcefull of us from

Anyone of my servitor or acolyte could send a coded transmittion (HF/VHF, okay could take a few hours to get there...) to the AdMech research station around the sun or any crew member sent to gather stuff in Port Wander could be bought,captured,interrogated, totured, etc to gain access to the information.

p.s. Anywya Timeless already knows what I am doing.

At a few things to clear up,

1.) You brought 11,000 warriors onto the ship, not 1,100.

2.) I was already asked and ruled that getit could send messages back to his chapter himself(without the need of the crew). He has been doing so for some time.

3.) As far as I know 3 different supplies of crystal have been brought aboard. The trees picked up by Crisaron, the samples that where given to Getit by the 7th while he was trying to forum objects with them, and the small supply given to Bang as thanks for ending the conflict. Each was stored in your own area of control, and I will leave how you all mange this up to you.

4.) Crisaron is correct on the point that once you get to a port the crew is expecting to leave the ship, and if they do so it is likely that stories of this adventure will spread.

I would really like it if you all do not start shooting at each other.

Timeless12 said:

Loal hey I am just pointing out facts and a few opinion...

Neither have i refused to opperate the ship, I have simply stopped providing inputs and information as a mode of protestation...

Timeless, am I right in thinking that the only "secret" we have from the crew, is the loyal Men of Iron on the ship, no one outside of the command crew should know they are there)?

Haha thing are certainly shaping up to be a cluster ****, looks good. To our 2 respected other organizations on board, I don't think we are going to keep you out of the loop forever, my opinion/thought the plan was to just keep them out till we can secure our hold over them first, then tell them.

DrPersons: Aren't you rolling a void master? Void Masters start with a bolt pistol already.

That is right only the command staff know about them, although a lot of people are wondering why so many of the cargo holds are off limits recently.

Fondor_Yards said:

Fraternising or dealing with Man of Iron is a grave heretec offence passible of somary destruction and excomunication by both Adeptus Mechanicus and Holy Ordo Hereticus/Xenos.

? Was talking about the crystals/star fort, not the iron men. Certainly not going to be telling people about the Iron Men still on board, unless I'm no where near the ship.

Also we've gotten off the subject of our acquisitions, want do you think of them Bang and Crisaron?

Fondor_Yards said:

that is fully within the limits of the Warrant unless Ordo Malleus or the Admech state that the PsyCrystall is a moral threat.

Probably another thing we should do, get the crystall cleared by the Adeptus mechanicus or the astrotelepathica.

Timeless,

Given that my char knows of the Iron men, would he think that the librarium might look the other way in regards to them, as long as we got information? This is not a question of what he would do, so much as what he thinks his superiors think.

Also if my chapter librarium cleared the crystal would that make the people more comfortable?

as long as it is clear, else it's cold trade.

About man of iron from lexicanum --> Since that time, it was decreed by the Emperor of Mankind that there would not be the creation or maintenance of a machine that had the capacity of thinking for itself.

See my dear Librarian, I don't even think you will talk about those to the member of your order... (we already can be sensured for moral thread all of us)

Now the librarian is in a pickle.

Indeed. One wouldn't want anyone finding out about this, would one? Perhaps the Crystal and location of the source of which should be treated with more discretion. I mean if we were all to simply start bandying such things about, who knows what might happen?

The librarian will do 4 things.

1) he not mention the men of iron on the ship

2) he will mention that there were men of iron on the planet, and that they were destroyed.

3) he will send info and samples to his chapter.

4) he will inform his chapter of the space marine armors and weapons on the planet and ask for guidance.

Finally he will ask that the missionary scrouge him thourghly

I smell corruption pts!!!

Moral Threat to the Chapter! Blood Raven and their Librarians! Oh the gravity!

May I remind you Captain that I have recorded tapes of all our transmissions, so should you try and put this on me, everyone will be made aware that I informed you from the get go...

[secured com from the inside of a shuttle while on a routine flight, scanned and as secured as I can trsuth it, to the captains personnal com bead]

Felix -- > My Lord I may have invited on board some Man of Iron "sympathetic" to our cause...

Bang Bagn --> I would be very interested to hear what our cause is, my dear Enginseer...

[End of transmission]

yes, that is why he is asking for the through scrouging. My char is this close to telling the chapter and is feeling very unsure of himself.

Here's the thing guys, you both both want to advance yourselves within your organization. I, however, am an underworld legend who most think is only a rumour under a false alias. Who has more to lose from exposure? And in felix' case, you're under the impression that a long list of folks died mysteriously so as to provide me with you. Surely you would take such...misfortune as a sign from the Omnissiah that I'm worthy of your loyalty?

Moreover, you both swore oaths to me as Lord Captain, and then committed heresy by your own choices. I certainly would think that the loyal leadership of your Captain would warrant some respect of his wishes?

Should you continue to try to leave with samples, remember that you have no transport. It could be tricky without one and a consenting Captain and Crew...