It's official! Chapter Pack reprints in new format

By Saturnine, in 1. AGoT General Discussion

Beginning with the King's Landing reprints . This is great news! :)

Awesome news, question though: is King's Landing a good cycle to buy if I'm buying one copy for a group? I know the ravens/season cycle is terrible in that case.

This is great news, as the King's Landing packs seem to have some of the most highly-rated cards on agotcards.org, and I'm still in the early stages of collecting and trying to acquire old packs.

Are A Clash of Arms and A Time of Ravens CP cycles also slated for the triplicate & errata update revision, Saturnine?

This is my favorite chapter pack cycle. Glad that I won't have to buy another 3 copies of each to have two play sets. Also liking the idea of the cards having the updated text.

Ruvion said:

Are A Clash of Arms and A Time of Ravens CP cycles also slated for the triplicate & errata update revision, Saturnine?

I can only speculate like everyone else. They might, but based on the Upcoming list, it looks like the Defenders of the North cycle is up for reprints next. After that, it's anyone's guess.

Hints of set rotation to come... who knows?!

They have said several times will not do set rotation so hopefully that is not it.

Defenders of the North reprint announcement is now up on the main page.

Toqtamish said:

They have said several times will not do set rotation so hopefully that is not it.

Defenders of the North reprint announcement is now up on the main page.

you pick - power creep or rotation.

the magical choice of "fun new sets which push and pull the game in a new direction without power creep"...doesn't exist except in the land of unicorns and rainbows.

That's your opinion but I for one do not support the idea of rotation. Nor do I see a need for it.

Woot for 3x Syrio, Val, etc on my first purchase of those chapter packs.

Need Clash x3... I need 3 copies of all those power cards, like To Be a Viper, To Be a Lion, and some of those great Banner cards, like Banner for the Dragon!

As per message by CP aka the Spaniard on the page for the announcement of Defenders of the North reprint they will reprint the cycles as they go out of print but at this time DotN and KL are the only two that are out of print.

Great new for me :)

What is power creep?

Power creep is the concept that (in card games) the longer the game goes on, the more powerful the cards are required to become otherwise all of the cards wind up the same. So the "power level" of the cards in the card pool creeps up over time. It's pretty much an unavoidable aspect of any CCG/LCG.

Oh, so that's why they try so hard at adding new complicated mechanics into the game (shadows, winter/summer), right?

nikotina said:

Oh, so that's why they try so hard at adding new complicated mechanics into the game (shadows, winter/summer), right?

I think that's kind of true. Really, it's not that the mechanics are complicated but that they are parasitic. That is, a good chunk of the cards in the Ravens cycle deal with Summer/Winter and so work best when you use at least one Raven plot card and play three Raven attachments and possibly some Carrion Birds. When you go to that much trouble, you don't want to just stick three of one Seasons-driven card. You want to play a bunch of them to make fighting for the season worth it. That leads you to playing a bunch of cards from the Ravens cycle. A similar line of reasoning goes more or less for Shadows, Wildlings, Night's Watch, House Dayne, Brotherhood, Kingsguard, etc. As long as the new cards focus around narrow themes that don't interact much with each other the power level will not increase very quickly. The more "good stuff" cards that get printed, the less room there is more "good stuff" without making it slightly better than what came before.

By the way, who wants to be the one to buy out the rest of the A Clash of Arms and A Time of Ravens packs with the old distribution model so the rest of us can get the new ones? (I am guessing no one other than a newbie will now).

My thought was exactly running towards the same conclusion...

However, I'm thinking FFG will eventually have to step up and make the reprints regardless of sell-outs or no sell-outs.

schrecklich said:

By the way, who wants to be the one to buy out the rest of the A Clash of Arms and A Time of Ravens packs with the old distribution model so the rest of us can get the new ones? (I am guessing no one other than a newbie will now).

It's not like people starting now have choice - there's a few key cards in those sets so if you want them you have to buy them.

Yeah I'll put myself into the category of "new", and willing to buy a couple packs from the Ravens and Clash cycles in the old format. I have a couple packs already from these two cycles, but really need a Destitute Horde, Song of Summer and Carrion Birds for a deck I'm putting together. No big deal - I'm willing to spend the little bit of money to get them NOW (vice 3 or 6 or 12 months down the road when they are reprinted...), and will just wait patiently until the other "lower priority" packs come out before I buy any others. I'll not ***** or complain when my previous purchases do arrive in the newer format, but will buy them again (if I feel it necessary to get any 3X copies), and rejoice for the newer players that can take advantage of the improved distribution!

Yay for reprints!

I'd pick Power Creep over rotation anyday. Just keep printing stuff, better, lousier, quirkier and let players decide which cards they will play with. With that said, I need to qualify that I play in a highly casual environment, so any kind of stuff is just fine for me. I don't think the people in my meta will care to cycle out "old cards" regardless of what FFG rules.

Definitely prefer "power creep" to all-out "rotation".