the any phase effect of house dayne reserves to kneel one influence to return it to its owners hand would i be able to do that effect even if house of dayne reserves is in the discard pile

No, you wouldn't. A card effect can only be triggered from an out-of-play state when it explicitly says so on the card. Hous Dayne Reserves doesn't say that you can return it from the discard pile, so you can't.

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