Are the orks a race of chaos? Can they be corrupted (or are they corrupted by nature)?

Why wouldn't Khorne take an ork as a champion? Why would an ork refuse to be Khorne's champion?

Or Iif there was going to be some sort of warp/ork relationship) would the orks be more of a nurgle thing, since they come from spores and what not?

Do the orks have some sort of chaos god they follow?

Orks are not a race of chaos. They can get corruption points but it doesnt effect them till they get 100 points. Orks will fight anyone or fight for anyone along there is fighting. So you can have Orks has tentative allies or as adversaries.

Hope that helps

Not having spent too much time in the ork background stuff, I know in Rogue Trader they don't gain Corruption as per Into the Storm. They have two beings they worship called Gork and Mork, and yes, in the fluff, Orks have been known to do things like invade daemon worlds and fight to the death, only to be brought back to life by Greater Daemons of Khorne so they can fight on forever...

As previously stated, "Into the Storm" for Rogue Trader covers the interactions between Orks and Chaos - basically, they can't be corrupted, and they worship their own gods, separate from the Chaos pantheon.

Orks are inherently uncorruptable - be it from their stupidity, determination, nascent psychic hive mind or just their biology making them more akin to plants than mammals, regardless they are not affected by or interested in the corruption and power of chaos.

Odd, in an old white dwarf i have detailing a campaign between tau, imperium and orks shows khornite stormboyz. The only orks that puts any semblance disipline to their fighting. But otherwise, no. Ork mentality in general prevents it. They don't fight to shed blood or kill, obviously a side effect, they fight simply because that's what they're hardwired to do. To them fighting is the end, not the means.

Well this is worng in a way.

1- There is a world in the Eye of Terror where an Old Warboss and is entire Waaaghhh fight for ever in one of those Khorne dedicated world. When that warboss reached the eye of terror he went in it thinking he could win it over. (Old ork fluff or chaos can't Remember). Every morning they wake up again and fight BloodLetters until they die to begin a new the next morning. UNtil the end of times...

2 - Old Deamon hunters, you could convert any armie to chaos, they suggested that Father Nurgle could try to pass it self as either Mork or Gork since both are green and fugly like Father Nurgle. There was also a ork/Nurgle conversion.

3 - Garshul the Destroyer4 (Possessed by a Daemon) (Lexicanum)

Orkz are too cool to roll with 'dem Kaos boyz

Or the Orcs arn't cool enought to roll with the Chaos boys.

yes, orks have invaded a chaos world and lost and now they rise each morning to fight the battle again until the end of time. It is out of the orks codex. I would know because I play orks in 40k.

Orks are, for the most part, incorruptible by Chaos. Stormboyz used to be the exception, but that's changed in recent times since Stormboyz got to be more Rokkit Pakk wearing psychopaths and less Orky Yoofs who March around and act like 'Oomies.

There is art in recent codexes showing Nurgle corrupted Orks, but Generally Gork and Mork are stronger than the influence of Chaos.

On the other hand you can offer an Ork Shootaz and Gubbinz and he might make for a decent mercenary helper.

Gurkhal said:

Who ask'd you, you Kaos git? ;P

Orks is da best an' da coolest.

I remember seeing a painting of Orks with Chaos mutations in one of the tabletop Codexes- I don't have them handy so I'm not sure if it was the Eye of Terror one or Witchhunters ...

Adeptus-B said:

Daemon Hunters I believe.

The story about the ork in the eye of terror went something along the line of the boss wanted to attack it because as he said to his boys: I knowz wher' da more choppa fighting is.

so they went into the eye of terror. Came to a demon world and landed. To find the whole place empty. As you can understand they were not happy and started arguing like only orks can and at some point an org hit the ground with his choppa in frustration. The world shuddered and moaned because the actual plannet was a choas corrupted entity. Suddenly al kinds of demons showed up and fought with the orks until all the orks where dead. But the choas gods resurrected them all the next day (as a prize or punishment i don't know) Just so they could all fight to the death again. and every time they all died it start again.

At some point the warboss is supposed to have said: Y told ya i knews wher' da best fighting iz.

Zeraga said:

Lost! LOST!! They havent lost they just have fun in Orky way

Routa-maa said:

Correct. Orks never lose. If they win, they win. If they die, they're dead so it doesn't count. If they run away, then they'll be back for another go, so that doesn't count either.

XiMao626 said:

From Into the Storm , page 59:

" Orkses is neva defeated in battle. If we win we win. If we die we die fightin' so it don't count. If we runz for it we don't lose eva, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!"
- common Ork saying

From Into the Storm , pg 61 - sidebar entry Kaos an' Kurupshun :

• Orks in service to the Chaos Gods, or even succumbing to the corrupting influence of the Warp, are so rare as to be essentially unheard. . . Consequently, Orks don't gain Corruption Points.

So, as it currently stands in regrards to the RPG rules, Orks don't fall to Chaos... And by their train of thought, they never lose.

-=Brother Praetus=-

The same books that originally introduced that saying, 'Ere We Go and Freebooters, also introduced the rules for Khorne's Stormboyz, Possessed Warpheads and Ork Mutant mobs. Not disputing what you're saying, I just find GW's grasp on continuity amusing sometimes.

ChaosChild said:

It's amusing how often people see deliberate changes to the setting and assume that someone screwed up.

Never said it was a screw up, never said it wasn't deliberate. It's just that the only publishing company that's rewritten their own continuity more often than GW is DC Comics. I find it amusing, that's all.

I also find it amusing how easily some people can read between the lines and infer things that were never even implied in the first place.

Must admit Chaoschild didn't come across as implying GW(or anyone else writing cannon'ish) had screwed up, merely that they've changed the setting quite a bit which makes it very hard to keep track of everything and makes it hard to find any continuity in their universe. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, if something is poorly written/though out it should be redone and the sooner the better. Not saying they're bad writers, often these things come up way later when they come up with a completely new idea that clashes with an older one.

It should be noted tho: DC is horrible when it comes to this. They even switch between their own versions between issues so there's no way in hell to know what's going on.

There is a really easy way to keep on top of what is canon or not currently - look at which edition of the rules each item was published during. Not that all older items are automatically ignorable, just that the older it is, the more chance it has been changed so if you remember something from your halcyon days as a teenage war-gamer 3 or 4 editions ago, chances are that it doesn't apply anymore or has changed subtly.

Kasatka said:

Bingo.

EVERYTHING, yes, EVERYTHING in the old Rogue Trader game (The original 1e of 40k) is NOT canon anymore. If it was mentioned there, it doesn't count. Even if, and especially if that was the only place it has ever been mentioned.

Many things in early 2e are no longer canon.

Most things since the Necrons came out in 2e are reasonably consistent, And most things since 3e in general are pretty much consistent, a few little things here and there, but not many.

So, if arguing canon, don't bother citing anything in 1e (That includes Lost & the Damned) or anything from early 2e. Heck, probably just ignore 2e too, since not a lot hasn't been covered in later editions now. You'll find that that simple thing will leave the setting rather consistent! *gasp* *shock*

Dulahan said:

You mean that my beloved Rainbow Warrior Space Marine chapter no longer exists? Nooooo!