How would a Redemptionist view Untouchables?

Do they hate all psykers or just unsanctioned ones?

How would they handle having to work with psyker from Illumination?

Letrii said:

1. I do not believe very well. They already project that aura of dread and such, probably would view it as a mutation.

2. AFAIK all. I don't believe the Ludmillan Dictates are specific, and are ambiguous like that.

3. Not very well.

e/ "If, for example, another player is a psyker or a mutant of any kind, you view them as a heretic and think there is only one correct response --- burn them." -Page 88-89 of the Inquisitor's Handbook.

A Redmeptionist, or a Redemptionist-working-for-the Inquisition?

The former doesn't tolerate anything... 'Kill them all, and let the Emperor sort them out'. Literally. Any single thing that differs from His holy image (inevitably including themselves). They're not insane, but they are brainwashed and deeply indoctrinated.

The later will tolerate a great deal more, viewing their anguish as His punishment for some transgression they have made, if they understand that being in the Inquisition alloweds them to carry the fire of purification (or the Chainsword of purification!) to other worlds. If they don't understand that, I doubt they'd get employed by the Inquisition in the first place.

Yeah the Redeptionists pretty much hate everything and anything that isn't pure strain human, and sometimes I think they hate them too. The fact the Emperor is the most powerful Psyker in the universe, and that he has personally sanctioned each and every santioned psyker is irrelevent. As is the case in most cults, truth and reality should never get in the way of zeal and belief.

As for untouchables, my belief is that they'd hate them too, simply because they weren't human. However I could see a faction within the Redemptionists easily turning to the belief that untouchables were a gift from the Emperor to help combat the evil of Chaos and Psykers, and use them. Could be a fun story of two Redemptionist cults fighting each other over the sanctity of Untouchables.

But I'd err on the side of killing the Untouchables. If the Redemptionist is wrong in killing the Untouchable, he feels the Untouchable will be blessed in death anyway. If he's right then he'd done right by sending them to the purifying flame and forbidding them. basically the saying when if doubt kill them and let God sort them out fits really well with the Redemptionists.

This would be most likey Assassin working for Inquisition.

Eschewing swords for a power fist and a flamer with a hellgun for a backup piece and a mono sword when power fist is not usable.

Letrii said:

The big question here then is what's the Inquisitor like, and does he know the assassin is a Redemptionist, and if the Inquisitor does know does he allow the assassin to know that he or she knows? Also something I may have missed but is the assassin an untouchable, or is someone else in the party an untouchable?

Basically an Inquisitor who is staunchly anti-Psyker wouldn't care if the assassin was a Redemptionist, and in fact may promote it, allowing the Redemptionist leeway in continuing his cults activities. However such an Inquisitor would strictly forbid the assassin from removing such a useful tool as an Untouchable, and in fact that assassin would be a lot more expendable then said Untouchable.

An Inquisitor who is neutral to Pskers may reign in that Assassin, but see a use for him if he's been trained in anti-psyker assassination.

A pro-psyker Inquisitor would probably never use a Redemptionist, unless he didn't know he was a Redemptionist, in which case the assassin may want to keep it quiet.

Now if the Assassin is the untouchable, I may suggest not allowing him to be a Redemptionist. However there are many death cults out there, who train assassins in Anti-psyker assassination who would accept an Untouchable. Just make your own Death Cult, and take what parts you like of the Redemptionists and cut the rest out.

There is no untouchable involved, just wondering how they would be viewed.

Letrii said:

Ah... the Inquisition sees Untouchables as a very important commodity, as long as they're not complete heretics. Having an alcolyte kill one without cause, regardless of his or her personal beliefs, would probably be given a dim view. In this case as long as the redemptionist was working for the Inquisition his personal beliefs on Untouchables would probably be unimportant. Untouchables are too rare and too important to the =][= to just allow them to be dispatched without some kind of cause.

Letrii said:

Oh! How they are viewed! Okay. Well, they're important in the fact of removing the psyker variable.

I was thinking they might see untouchables as blessed by the Emperor and sanctioned psykers as barely tolerated threats to keep a close eye on with a flamer always at side. Keep friends close and enemies closer after all. The only thing keeping the psyker alive would be the command of the Inquisitor and that protection is null when the psyker becomes a danger to those around him, such as when he draws the eye of things best left in the warp.

Hmm, This gives me an idea for an extremist cult that beleives there is only one 'true' human genome, and so reproduces soley through cloning. all others are mutants are must be pruged. An army of deranged murderous clones! Weeeee!

Did the Emperor send out a Order 66 via Astronomicon?

well, there arn't any jedi, so clearly the anwser is yes.

His clones must suck, look how many wyrds are out there.

If you need source material, check out Scourge the Heretic. The Inquisitor is a psyker. There is a Pyrokene in the group. And his assassin is a Redemptionist. There is a little tension there, but as the book progresses, the Inquisitor comments on how his assassin is changing. (I.E. she still wears red and doesn't like her faith to be mocked, but she jokes that she went undercover by wearing red underwear, thus not breaking the commandment to wear at least some red.)