Untouchables

By RedSkull, in Dark Heresy

So this is something that just poped into my head. Can Xenos have the untouable trait..... I mean like could an eldar have this trait?

Has anyone encountered something like this before..??

I believe in fluff, the only races with recorded untouchables are humanity and the necrons. That said, there is no reason there couldn't be untouchables in other races, indeed I can imagine an entire Untouchable species (maybe not a sophont species, but a non-sapient indigen, like the Ysalimiri from Star Wars). However, given that all eldar are apparently at least slightly psychic, I would say that you couldn't make an Eldar Untouchable, at least not without special circumstances- maybe use a similar mechanic for a Solitaire, but that's about it.

I was under the impression that untouchable-ness was a uniquely human mutation.

Maybe I'm getting my wires crossed though.

So far Untouchables have only been found amongst Humans. However theres nothing to say there aren't alien species out there with similar abilitys, either from Necron manipulation, natural occurance or through there own perverse science.

I'd say based on what I know of the Eldar as a highy Psychic race (specificaly created as such) that they shouldn't have Untouchables. Dark Eldar on the other hand through constantly having there souls drained away by Slanesh.... maybe, but probably only as the result of some botched Psychic experiment or some form of dark xenos tech.

The xenos race Slaugth. The Slaugth are all untouchables.

I seem to remember reading somewhere the Eldar Solitairs are Soulless, which is effectively what an Untouchable is

The Tau have no warp signature whatsoever, I therefore guess that there entire species count as untouchable.

user4574 said:

Soulless, which is effectively what an Untouchable is

I doubt that bein' soulless means that you have to be untouchable. Of course it is in some fluff which mentions UTs as soulless, but they can pray to the Emperor, can't they ;) ? I prefer that there is something in their genom, which can be expolited by the necrons to create pariah.

In TT Eldar Solitaires, who are some kind of harlequin, I guess, do not have any psy-disrupting abilities, the same with Tau.

Does not having a warp signature imply you can't be affected by the warp?

Not sure Games Workshop has nailed down the exact background to the Tau but certainly my interpretation is that the Tau are a very young race and are therefore not long on the path of evolution. It is certainly canon that they have no psykers, possibly because this stage in their evolution has not begun. Their souls flicker very faintly in the warp and are barely recognisable, thus being of no interest to the nefarious denizens of the warp.

I am little hazy on whether the untouchable rules would apply to them or not.

Tau = flickers very faintly in the Warp = minimal psychic potential (no known active psykers) =/= untouchable

From what I've read the Tau only register faintly in the Warp. They can still be affected by Psychic powers, their souls (for lack of a better word) just can't be seen in the Warp. This doesn't make them Untouchable, it just means that Daemons/Chaos Gods/whatever else you can think of can't see them from within the Warp.

According to the background, the Pariah gene was engineered into primordial Terran creatures by the C'tan during their fight with the Old Ones, and the seed is now starting to grow. Necron Pariah's are actually cyborgs, rather than the robotic skeletons that other necrons are and come from harvested human tissue.

The Untouchable/Pariah association with the C'tan is one of the reasons why the Eldar found them to be so abhorrant (the psychic nullness being another.) There was a story in the 3rd edition Codex: Assasins about an Eldar Farseer stalked by a Culexus Assasin (untouchable assasin) and how even the mon'keigh would recoil from using such an abomination if they knew what they really were.

As for other untouchable creatures in the galaxy, it certainly is a possibility for some races to have the genetic make up for it, but so far humans are the only ones that manifest the pariah gene.

As for the Tau, they have a very very small signature in the Warp, as they are a very primitive in regards to psychic evolution, and do not attract that much attention from the warp for this reason. Also it was said in the first Tau codex that their psychic infancy was one of the reasons why they had a small empire as they did not have the ability to make far-reaching warp jumps and had to drop back into real space after a short distance to get their bearings.

Jan Solo said:

The xenos race Slaugth. The Slaugth are all untouchables.

Yeah seriously, are people really not aware of this?

'Not like it's a huge secret or anything. The DM's screen has been out for a long while.

I was thinking that a dark eldar homonclous may have caused himself to become an untouchable...I mean it sounds like it could happen. What do you all think?