I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but I'm not very familiar with Warhammer Fantasy in general.

I bought the Winds of Magic .pdf from DriveThruRPG, and was reading through it, and noticed that Grey Order Wizards often carry a Sword of Judgement, only I don't think it actually says what a Sword of Judgement is?

So, my question is... what is this? Also, how might it be represented in a game, if one of my players wanted to be a Grey Wizard? Is it a hand weapon (sword) that just gets labeled that, or is it a superior hand weapon, or some sort of artefact or what?

Nabikasu said:

Without an 'official' word, I'd simply say it's whatever you want it to be. In my game, it would be what Grey Wizards carry instead of a staff. What gets the attuned ability as they go up in rank - it's the simple of their order. I wouldn't make it a weapon of superior quality, but it should be recognisable for what it is.

Sausageman said:

This is how I do it as well.

Yes, the "Sword of Judgement" is one of the symbols of the Grey Order. Accordingly, Grey Wizards often carry a sword and, many times, attune the sword to be used as a focus for their magic in place of a staff or amulet. The sword itself needn't be special or of superior quality in any way. It's just a weapon and symbol of their craft. You can treat it in all respects like a normal hand weapon.

I allow upgrades to this: 7.5g for a white bonus die (basic superior item), etc.

Yeah, after reading a bit more that's what I've come to as my conclusion as well. A sword with an attunement rating.

Anyway, thanks for the help guys! I just was curious if there was any kind of fluff for it, or anything.

Shadowmancers [Grey order]....are tasked primarily with the persecution of the enemies within Imperial society and the protection of the ideals of the Empire...The Shadowmancers serve as diplomats, spies and even assasins, tasked with finding and eliminating the networks of illicit organisations that work away in the shadows undermining the acceptable civil, military, political, and religious structures of the Empire.

From the RoS.

I often apply grey wizards as a secret police, that works in the shadows, not very unlike a Witchhunter. Of that reason carrying a sword would have a practical use as well. another names for grey wizards are Grey Guardians.

The Sword is the symbol of the lore of shadow, and the sword of Judgement is a subtle reminder of the College's own very strict rules. And with it you will cut through the veils of Ulgu and see the truth. It also serves as a cold reminder what would happen to you if you give in to temptations and use the lore of shadow for your own selfish needs.

Shadowmancers may only practice their spellcraft for the benefit of the Empire...and are forbidden to use their magic for their own profit or solely for the political or financial profit of their patrons. All shadowmancers must take vows of poverty and cannot accumulate property or wealth that is of no direct or practical use to their cause. Any breaches of the many strict rules laid down by the order are prosecuted very harshly and vigorously.

From the RoS.

good gaming

Mal Reynolds said:

Aye. One of the neater elements to me about the Grey Order is that, while they are most often regarded by outsiders (even other Wizards) as deceivers, tricksters and sneaks because of the nature of Ulgu and their magic, the Order is really about piercing the veil of lies that enshrouds the world and seeking the truth...to "see the puppet strings" as it were and, with the mighty Sword of Judgement, cut those strings when necessary.