Quick question about Falcon's Point movement in Innsmouth...

By aramina, in Arkham Horror Second Edition

So I just recently got the Innsmouth expansion, and my gaming group tested it out last night. It was lots of fun, but we ran into the problem where someone used the Falcon's Point location ability to move to Devil's Reef, and we couldn't figure out how they were supposed to get back to the mainland. We eventually decided that you were paying for a round trip, and could just return to Falcon's Point later with no additional cost, but I was curious what other people thought and if there was a confirmed answer for this situation. happy.gif

aramina said:

So I just recently got the Innsmouth expansion, and my gaming group tested it out last night. It was lots of fun, but we ran into the problem where someone used the Falcon's Point location ability to move to Devil's Reef, and we couldn't figure out how they were supposed to get back to the mainland. We eventually decided that you were paying for a round trip, and could just return to Falcon's Point later with no additional cost, but I was curious what other people thought and if there was a confirmed answer for this situation. happy.gif

You will need someone else at Falcon point to pay for you to come back. There might be other ways of getting back to shore from Devils Reef though...

Oh I didn't even think of checking to see if there was a location encounter that could take you back, thanks!

aramina said:

Oh I didn't even think of checking to see if there was a location encounter that could take you back, thanks!

Well it's your game and you may use it how you want, but I'd suggest not reading encounter cards to see what might happen in every location. Let it be a suprise.

I would also like some clarification. I couldn't find anything in rules or searching several message boards/threads.

Specifically as well. If you have business at Y'HA-NTHLEI, maybe an encounter or you have either just closed/sealed a gate. I would guess a movement point is spent to get to Devil's Reef but special text says you must stop there. So if you finish up at Y'N-H you must first get to Devil's Reef and then return to Falcon Point next turn? I think for sake of playability you would need to assume you paid for the round trip to Devil Reef.

iballz said:

I would also like some clarification. I couldn't find anything in rules or searching several message boards/threads.

Specifically as well. If you have business at Y'HA-NTHLEI, maybe an encounter or you have either just closed/sealed a gate. I would guess a movement point is spent to get to Devil's Reef but special text says you must stop there. So if you finish up at Y'N-H you must first get to Devil's Reef and then return to Falcon Point next turn? I think for sake of playability you would need to assume you paid for the round trip to Devil Reef.

By all means you can house rule it that way to make it nicer to play, but Devil Reef is not supposed to be a nice place to go. If I might suggest a house rule for you: Falcon Point to Devil Reef costs $4 for a return Journey.

There is nothing in the rules that says you can't use Falcon Point to bring someone back from Y'HA-NTHLEI, although it does not make any sense that you can't sail to it, but you can sail back from that location.

Krawhitham said:

iballz said:

I would also like some clarification. I couldn't find anything in rules or searching several message boards/threads.

Specifically as well. If you have business at Y'HA-NTHLEI, maybe an encounter or you have either just closed/sealed a gate. I would guess a movement point is spent to get to Devil's Reef but special text says you must stop there. So if you finish up at Y'N-H you must first get to Devil's Reef and then return to Falcon Point next turn? I think for sake of playability you would need to assume you paid for the round trip to Devil Reef.

By all means you can house rule it that way to make it nicer to play, but Devil Reef is not supposed to be a nice place to go. If I might suggest a house rule for you: Falcon Point to Devil Reef costs $4 for a return Journey.

There is nothing in the rules that says you can't use Falcon Point to bring someone back from Y'HA-NTHLEI, although it does not make any sense that you can't sail to it, but you can sail back from that location.

Y'HA-NTHLEI is an underwater city. The only entrance is a tunnel that begins at Devil Reef (and back again, of course).

To answer the question, the only ways to get back to Falcon Point from Devil Reef are to be Silas Marsh, or to have another investigator buy your trip back (using Falcon Point's ability), or to have an encounter at either Devil Reef or Y-HA-NTHLEI that sends you back (there are a few of them, though odds are against you). Devil Reef is by far the safer of the 2 locations to have encounters at.

The question then becomes- if at Falcon Point, can an investigator charter passage for another investigator to travel from Y'HA-NTHLEI straight to Falcon Point? You obviously can't go the other way around as the location descriptions explicitly forbid such travel, but nothing says you can't go from Y'HA-NTHLEI to Falcon Point. In fact, Falcon Point says you can move an investigator in any aquatic location to Falcon Point; the implication being that you can. I guess you're paying a local submarine commander to use his military vessel for a short trip.

Musha Shukou said:

Y'HA-NTHLEI is an underwater city. The only entrance is a tunnel that begins at Devil Reef (and back again, of course).

The question then becomes- if at Falcon Point, can an investigator charter passage for another investigator to travel from Y'HA-NTHLEI straight to Falcon Point? You obviously can't go the other way around as the location descriptions explicitly forbid such travel, but nothing says you can't go from Y'HA-NTHLEI to Falcon Point. In fact, Falcon Point says you can move an investigator in any aquatic location to Falcon Point; the implication being that you can. I guess you're paying a local submarine commander to use his military vessel for a short trip.

I was thinking it's more along the lines of chartering a regular boat - most likely a fishing boat - to come and fish you out of the water after swimming up from the sunken city. Because if a sub could go there to pick you up, then they could also drop you off.