So if you end your movement on a monster at a location for example.. I guess that you have to either fight it now or try to evade it ? You cannot wait till the arkham encounter phase right?

So lets say you try to evade it, and you succeed, that means in the arkham encounter phase, you can "use" the location or gate, or even choose to fight the monster riiight? (even though you might as well just have fought it during the monster phase)..

also.. lets say during the movement phase you tried to evade it, you failed, you took damage, and then tried to flee after you entered combat with the monster and did the horror check. you fled the monster successfully. Now in the arkham encounter phase, you STILL get to "use" the location/gate or for that sake fight the monster correct?

Just want to clear that up too.. Playing the game for the 2nd time and trying to erase all my uncertainties drawing from the knowledge of you forum lurkers here..

I think I got it but I just need to be completely sure.

It is my understanding that you can use the monster after the monster has been dealt with, whether by fighting it or evading it. Once you have either killed it or evaded it, then you have a normal encounter, even if it took multiple rounds to fight or evade it.

New to Arkham? There are 3 guidelines.

1) Read the rules

2) Read the rules

3) Read the rules

Thats not meaning to inslut your intelligence, but you do need to familiarise yourself with the phases of play and what happens withing them. Read the rules inbetween playing games.

So back to your original question: Fighting/evading monsters happens during Phase 2: Movement. Arkham Enciunters happens during Phase 3.

Simply resolve each Phase in order. If you are in a Location during the Arkham Encounter phase you may have an encounter.

Krawhitham said:

This thread just got a bit more interesting than was intended.

Tibs said:

Yeah. I was going to remark on the same thing ;'D

Uhm.. Thanks for the help I guess... Bad day bromeister?

FYI I have read the rules and read them all the time in between and during games... Just want to clear a few things up and gain some consencus on a few areas... Next time try not to act like a superior elitarian douchebag and either just help or stfu if it grinds your gears that much...

Also LOL.

Also yes, I am new to Arkham, and I

1) Watched a tutorial on youtube

2)Read the rules all the time

3)And clear up my uncertainties on a forum that is relevant for it

And yeah, believe it or not, but rules can ALWAYS be misinterpreted, there is a reason that they update the rules and the errata, many times the rules have mistakes or certain "loopholes" that can lead to confusion. It´s not Ludo mofo.

I would second what Krawhitham said, with a game like Arkham Horror it really isn't an insult to be reminded that the best option is to read the rules. There is nothing wrong with asking questions after this, at least Krawhitham did reply to your queries, which is more than Tibs or Avi_dreader attempted.

I would also add that my guidelines would include "Play a game of Arkham Horror solo (using several Investigators)" between each "Read the Rules" step

TimeFrame said:

So if you end your movement on a monster at a location for example.. I guess that you have to either fight it now or try to evade it ? You cannot wait till the arkham encounter phase right?

TimeFrame said:

This time I'm not sure what you mean by ""use" the location or gate". If you are in Phase 3: Arkham Encounters then you follow the instructions for the area containing a Gate or not. If the location has a Gate then you are sucked through, you generally do not have a choice, doesn't matter if the location contains monsters or not. If the location doesn't have a gate then you have an Encounter and turn over the appropriate Encounter card and follow the instructions. If you are in a Street Area then you do not, in general, have an Encounter. If there is a monster in the same area as you then you do not evade or fight it again since that only happens in Phase 2: Movement.

One confusing thing is that if the Phase 3 or Phase 4 Encounter results in "A Monster appears" then you do have to evade or fight these new monsters that suddenly appear. But it is not that you have a choice about fighting the monsters you encountered during Phase 2, you don't.

TimeFrame said:

also.. lets say during the movement phase you tried to evade it, you failed, you took damage, and then tried to flee after you entered combat with the monster and did the horror check. you fled the monster successfully. Now in the arkham encounter phase, you STILL get to "use" the location/gate or for that sake fight the monster correct?

Again, with the ""use" the location/gate". During Phase 2: Movement, you move and fight monsters you encounter during movement. During Phase 3: Arkham Encounters, you either get sucked through a gate, have an Encounter, or do nothing if you are in a Street Area. You only fight monsters during Phase 3 (or Phase 4 for that matter) if you encounter a "Monster Appears" situation and you only evade or fight that new monster.

When I started to read the rules to Arkham Horror for the first time I was confused about the fact that while the rules seemed to imply that Combat only occurred during Phase 2, it also seemed to happen during Phase 3 and 4. Playing a few solo games and reading the rule book helped during this time but it was confusing for me I must admit because Phase 3 and 4 combat only occurs under certain circumstances and at the start it wasn't clear when these circumstances would or could occur.

So, to sum it all up:

You deal with monsters that are already on the board ONLY during Phase 2: Movement, NEVER during any other phase. If you end your movement in the same space as a monster, or you try to leave a space containing a monster, you must deal with it by either evading it, or fighting it. If you evade it, you may continue moving or you may stay in the same space. If you stay in the same space you will ignore the monster for the rest of your turn because you just evaded it (note, however, that NEXT turn, if you are still in the same space, and you end your movement in the same space or wish to leave the space that still contains the monster, you will have to deal with it again). If you fight the monster, your movement immediately ends and, even if you kill the monster, you may not continue your movement, you are stuck in the space where combat occurred.

During Phase 3: Encounters, you ignore the monsters on the board, entirely. After all, you already dealt with all monsters in your way during Phase 2: Movement. So, if you moved to a space on the board that contained a monster, evaded it, and decided not to move any further, then you will continue to share the space with the monster through Phase 3, Phase 4, Phase 5, and Phase I of the following turn, ignoring that monster the entire time. This means that you are free to have whatever encounters are appropriate for the space you are in. If you are in a street, no encounter. If you are in an Arkham location, use the location's ability or draw the appropriate location encounter card. If you are in a space that has a gate, then go through the gate. If you draw an encounter card, either during Phase 3 or Phase 4 that says a monster appears, then draw a monster and evade or fight it. This is the ONLY time you will deal with monsters outside of Phase 2. If you evade it, return it to the cup. If you fight it and defeat it, claim it as a trophy.

If, during Phase 3, you draw a card that says a gate and a monster appear, then you are sucked through the gate, and you don't deal with the monster that turn. That monster is now on the board and is subject to the "ONLY during Phase 2" rule.

xris said:

Sometimes one can reply to a question, but sometimes one needs to stop and smell the roses, or the verbal equivalent thereof, stop and smell the inslut ;'D
Besides, I'm pretty sure his question was already answered.

But yes. Rererererererererererere(add a few more res)reading the rules is always a good idea. Until you've played the game for a few years ;') At least.

Avi_dreader said:

I love reading the rules. I keep them in a backpack and I take them with me wherever I go just in case I have time to kill. Whenever I've got a minute I break out the rulebooks and engage in some light reading.

Musha Shukou said:

God, I hope that is a joke ;'D

wow, there sure is a lot of words in this thread to answer something so simple. the TL;DR answer is:

• movement phase is the only phase where you interact with the monsters on the board.

simple as pie.
(i do approve of comments commenting the inslut, though. it should be commented!)

Taurmindo said:

Wrong, so it appears it's not as simple as pie.

It is possible to interact with monsters during Phase 3 (Arkham Encounters) and Phase 4 (Other World Encounters) as well as during Phase 2 (Movement).

Or are you going to claim that fighting / evading monsters during a "Monster Appears" encounter isn't interacting or that they aren't really "on the board" during that time?

xris said:

yes. that is why i used "on the board" in the wording. they aren't actually on the board, and aren't affected by monsters-on-the-board game mechanics, such as outskirts. the wording was intended.

i can think of the exception of the kingsport encounter where you move the closest monster to your location and (i think) encounter it. but that's a pretty far-fetched one off example.

"On the board" means literally "on the board." He was talking about monsters that are sitting on the board that you would have had to deal with during movement. The current ruling is that you can only deal with them then; you don't when an encounter moves you onto one.