Hi there, I need to know if the Enemy Informer card can be played outside the marshaling phase. I'm asking this, because its rules text says the word "response" and there are others cards that says something like "when this character enters play..." so I don't know if there is any diference, or they are exactly the same.

Sismo said:

There are different ways to put characters into play other than the Marshalling phase, and the "Response" covers all of those.

One example I can think of is using the event Narrow Escape.

http://agot.dbler.com/index.php?view=card&arsenalid=30048

Ok, so basically it is only playable on marshaling, unless you use some other card that alows you to put him into play in other phase.

Thanks for the quick answer!

Oooooh, no.

There's no other trigger for Enemy Informer except playing it during the marshalling phase.

It does not respond to any "put into play" effects, as it's clearly worded "play" which means play during marshalling by paying its cost. It even has the "from your hand" text to really get the point across, although it's not necessarily needed.

Sorry - I misread enemy informer. Narrow Escape clearly does not cover "from your hand".

Bomb said:

It's not even about that. It's about the difference between play and put into play. Play is a narrowly defined way of getting a card into play. Whenever you play a card, you always play it from your hand (there's no other place to play a card from), and you do so by paying the associated cost, and you do it during the marshalling phase (an exception to this being events, which are played according to their play restriction). The "from your hand" in the text of Enemy Informer is not needed,, it just makes explicit what is already in the rules.

Saturnine said:

But generally, if play a card is from your hand, if there is a way to get EI in play from your hand other than paying for its cost during the Marshalling phase, then it's Response can be triggered, right? I am simply trying to understand it. There may be future events or cards that allow you to do this(or an existing card that isn't being thought of) and it may be useful in combination with EI.

Bomb said:

That's what Saturnine is saying. There IS NO OTHER WAY to "play" a non-event card from your hand, other than to pay its cost when it is your turn in the Marshaling phase. There are many effects that will "put a card into play," even from your hand, outside of your turn in Marshaling, but these do not meet the definition of play.

You are effectively asking here "if I have an effect that puts a card into my dead pile some other way that actually 'killing' it, I can use 'after a card is killed' effects, right?" And this is obviously not true. You wouldn't say that a card like Aegon's Hill, which puts a card in its owner's hand into its owner's dead pile, actually "killed" anything, right? Same deal here. Just because a card "comes into play" does not mean that it was "played."

Bomb said:

The only way a future card could do this and create the combination with EI would be for it to say "that character is considered to have been played from your hand." The rules (this is in the FAQ, btw) are very specific about the strict definition of "play" vs. "put into play."

Fair enough. Thanks.