Some more questions

By arkhamresident, in Arkham Horror Second Edition

In our last game we had an investigator get devoured and the investigator drawn to replace him was Pete. When I was getting Pete's stuff together I found out that Duke wasn't one of the Allies put it the deck at the beginning of the game. Since I didn't know what to do I returned a random ally to the box and gave Duke to Pete but I wanted to know if I was right.

Can Jacqueline's ability to redraw Mythos cards also be used to redraw a Mythos card drawn to find the placement of a Servant of Glaaki if the Servant is to be placed during the Mythos phase?

Can an investigator have two blessings, curses or retainers?

arkhamresident said:

In our last game we had an investigator get devoured and the investigator drawn to replace him was Pete. When I was getting Pete's stuff together I found out that Duke wasn't one of the Allies put it the deck at the beginning of the game. Since I didn't know what to do I returned a random ally to the box and gave Duke to Pete but I wanted to know if I was right.

Can Jacqueline's ability to redraw Mythos cards also be used to redraw a Mythos card drawn to find the placement of a Servant of Glaaki if the Servant is to be placed during the Mythos phase?

Can an investigator have two blessings, curses or retainers?

1) I'm not aware of any specific rule regarding this, however I don't see a problem with what you have done because Duke is a fixed posession.

2) Unsure - I dont have this investigator

3) No - you can only have 1 blessing/curse and 1 retainer. There would be a small benefit, however. When you first gain one of these items you do not roll to discard it on your next upkeep phase. If you were to gain a 2nd one, you can treat it as a new item and not roll during the upkeep phase (which would be a pain for curses).

arkhamresident said:

1. In our last game we had an investigator get devoured and the investigator drawn to replace him was Pete. When I was getting Pete's stuff together I found out that Duke wasn't one of the Allies put it the deck at the beginning of the game. Since I didn't know what to do I returned a random ally to the box and gave Duke to Pete but I wanted to know if I was right.

2. Can Jacqueline's ability to redraw Mythos cards also be used to redraw a Mythos card drawn to find the placement of a Servant of Glaaki if the Servant is to be placed during the Mythos phase?

3. Can an investigator have two blessings, curses or retainers?

1. That's exactly what I would have done. But I don't think there is a "correct" way to do things in that case. Sometimes, things just conflict, or don't flow well, or cause you to undo the initial game setup. In those cases I think you just have to do what you got to do to make things work.

2. I would say no. I believe her ability should only apply to the Mythos cards drawn as part of the actual Mythos phase to put the Mythos effect into the game. After all, you can only use it once per turn. Why waste it on a Servant of Glaaki?

3. No. If an investigator already has one of those cards and gains it again, you basically just reset the card as if you just gained it. Meaning: you don't do the upkeep roll to see if you keep the card on the Upkeep following the turn in which you regained the card.

I agree with the past few posters about blessings and curses, but I'm not so sure about retainers. Is there any official ruling about them? I used to be on the fence about this issue until I read the passage in the base game rulebook that talks about being knocked out or driven insane; it says that you lose hald your items and half your clues "along with all Retainers (if any)." If you can only have one retainer, that's pretty strange wording.

Additionally, effects that bless you never say "you are blessed if you are not already blessed," while some (and only some) effects that give you a retainer say "you gain a retainer if you do not already have one." I admit that last point is shaky, but I still stand it.

AH Manual, Special Card Limitations , page 23: "In most cases, a player may never have more than one copy of each special card at the same time. This rule applies to Retainers, Bank Loans, Silver Twilight Memberships, and Bless/Curse cards."

But that was a good try, Walk. gran_risa.gif

...Curses (or rather, one renewed curse). Didn't see that. Ah, well. That wording is pretty weird, then. Suppose that invalidates that one game I played where Darrell had two, although I can't remember whether I won that one.

One wonders, however, what is meant by "in most cases." Can anyone think of an example where you might have more than one? I suppose unusual cards like Corruption might technically count as Specials...

One more thing. After failing to cast Greater Banishment the other day it dawned on me that the spell doesn't say it's discarded if you pass the check but after it's cast . So does that mean even if I fail the spell check I have to discard any spell that says "cast and discard"?

Not so sure about this one, but generally it was ruled that spells should be considered "cast and exhaust". And then, eventually (in case it's required in the spell description), discard if the casting attempt was successful

Julia's correct ~ in most cases, the spell states, "cast and exhaust." Even if the attempt to cast fails, the spell is rendered "exhausted." Having said that, I would not interpret the rule to discard the spell unless the Investigator actually succeeded in casting the spell.

To be general: whether or not they say so , all spells are exhausted when you attempt to cast them. Spells that say they're discarded are only discarded if cast successfully.

This applies to Tomes too (though some give a different reward for passing or failing and thus are discarded regardless).

Ooooh, one more! I drew an encounter from DH that says I can search the mythos deck for a card and remove it to the box. It doesn't say I have to reshuffle but I always thought searching the deck warrants a shuffle. So shuffle?

I'd say so. When you search an Item deck for a card of your choice, you shuffle afterward. The Mythos deck is particularly important to shuffle.

@Tibs

Your Tony Morgan quote sounds so wrong ;'D Amusing absurdities.