Questions core set

By DVA, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

Hello,

Can you guys help me with these newbie questions?

1) Can I have more than one copy of some locations (e.g. Goldroad of Western Fiefdoms) in play (not in hand but on the table)?

2) Revealing plotcard: have my plotcards also effect on my opponent? (e.g. Planning Ahead, 'skip the taxation phase' or Hear me Roar)

3) Grandmaester Pycelle: what's the exact meaning of "after an opponent's effect reveals one or more cards..."? Can you give me an example?

Thanks,

Davy

DVA said:

1) Can I have more than one copy of some locations (e.g. Goldroad of Western Fiefdoms) in play (not in hand but on the table)?

2) Revealing plotcard: have my plotcards also effect on my opponent? (e.g. Planning Ahead, 'skip the taxation phase' or Hear me Roar)

3) Grandmaester Pycelle: what's the exact meaning of "after an opponent's effect reveals one or more cards..."? Can you give me an example?

1) Yes, the only time you can't have multiple copies would be a Unique location (the flag to the left of the card title) like Winterfell.

There are some locations that say "Limit 1 per deck" like the Street of Steel. That is a deckbuilding restriction, and it is possible to take control of an opponent's locations. You would be allowed to have two in play in that case.

2). This would depend on the plot card. Some will specify you (A Time for Ravens), some an opponent (The Red Wedding), some both ( )and some affect all players(Planning Ahead). If a card tells you to skip, repeat or add a phase, that includes both (or all in multiplayer) players. Everyone shares a phase in a given round, you may just take turns being the active player (in Marshalling or Challenges). If their is any confusion, look at the verb being used, typically there is an understood "you" in any imperative sentence.

3) A good example is House Messenger: After you play House Messenger from your hand,reveal the top 2 cards of your deck to all players. Then,put 1 of those cards into your hand,and the other on the bottom of your deck.

With Grand Maester Pycelle, would this also count for cards that you must reveal after searching for them, like Summoning season. "Search your deck for a character reveal it and place it in your hand," Does that count?

Azarith_Stryffe said:

With Grand Maester Pycelle, would this also count for cards that you must reveal after searching for them, like Summoning season. "Search your deck for a character reveal it and place it in your hand," Does that count?

Yes, basically you're looking for any effect that has the word "reveal" in it. The only thing I'm not certain of is whether effects that have a player reveal a new plot card count as well, because revealing a plot is something quite different.

Saturnine said:

Azarith_Stryffe said:

With Grand Maester Pycelle, would this also count for cards that you must reveal after searching for them, like Summoning season. "Search your deck for a character reveal it and place it in your hand," Does that count?

Yes, basically you're looking for any effect that has the word "reveal" in it. The only thing I'm not certain of is whether effects that have a player reveal a new plot card count as well, because revealing a plot is something quite different.

If you look at Pycelle's card text (also quoted in the OP), it specifically states "opponent's effect". Revealing plot cards during the plot phase's framework action is a framewok action, not an effect controlled by an opponent (or any player for that matter). So no, that particular instance of reveal does not trigger Pycelle.

Also keep in mind that if you played the Summoning Season / Buliding Season / Spending the Winter Store et al, choosing an opponent to search and reveal a card does not trigger Pycelle's ability, since the card was revealed by an effect you control, not an "opponent's effect".

Edit: Misunderstood your statement. If an opponent's effect (e.g. Bran / Lords of the Narrow Sea / Scheming on the Sand / Margery Tyrell) reveals a plot card, I don't see why Pycelle's ability cannot be triggered. It's a card, it's revealed, and it's an ability controlled by an opponent.

Thanks Maester Luke!