Trish Scarborough's PS

By Elendil23, in Arkham Horror Second Edition

To PASS the story do the 2 clues she requires have to be gained 'in an encounter'? Sometimes a location has two clues sitting upon it. Can she just visit this location and pick them both up to complete her story? Or in typical AH fashion is it much more difficult than that?

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Since you pick up clues from the board during movement and not during either of the encounter phases I would say that does not count as being during an encounter. So it would be the hard way.

That's what I thought...and it's the way I played it yesterday when getting Trish on a random investigator draw for the first time (and it took more than a few scans of her card to realise her STATS are all paired differently!).

Thanks

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She has to get the clues during an encounter . This also means that clues gained by a location's special ability, like the Science Building's, won't do.

What about using Press Pass or Hand Camera (really quite strange that they have the same list price!) to gain an extra clue from the encounter?

Also, what happens if you pass the Will check during this encounter at Independence Square?

"Make a Will (-1) check. If you pass it, Anna Kaslow the fortune teller offers her help in your investigation. Take her Ally card if it is still available. Otherwise, gain 2 Clue tokens. If you fail, nothing happens."

On Anna's Ally card it says, "Gain 2 Clue tokens when Anna Kaslow joins you."

I assume that since you take the Ally card as part of the encounter, you would also gain the 2 Clue tokens as part of the encounter.

I suppose the same would be true if a monster appeared during an encounter and it was a Warlock.

It kind of matters because Independence Square is one of the places that I advise people playing Trish to explore, along with the Newspaper and the Asylum.

It says "during an encounter." So far as I can tell, that means that Kaslow counts, and so does use of a Press Pass.

If it's ever clarified that when an encounter that moves you to another location (to have another encounter there) allows you to pick up clues on the space, and you pick up two or more, well then—that's "during the encounter" as well.

Tibs said:

If it's ever clarified that when an encounter that moves you to another location (to have another encounter there) allows you to pick up clues on the space, and you pick up two or more, well then—that's "during the encounter" as well.

Heh. Didn't think of that.

Tibs said:

If it's ever clarified that when an encounter that moves you to another location (to have another encounter there) allows you to pick up clues on the space, and you pick up two or more, well then—that's "during the encounter" as well.

Could you clarify this. For example, say there are two clue tokens located at the Woods, you are at the Historical Society and you turn over the "The Society members are bird watching in the woods..." encounter card. Is this an example of what you mean, you move to the Woods (during the Arkham Encounter Phase) and pick up the two clue tokens. Kaching, personal story - passed!

Yes, that's what I meant. But that's not (yet) official. Official rules and clarifications have actually changed over the years, and the last official ruling was that you could only pick up the clues and deal with monsters on your new space during the movement phase. That may (not necessarily saying it will) be officially overturned again in the future, but for now it's in the realm of house-rules.

Not to hijack or anything, but since the topic seems pretty ironed out now...

Anyone notice that Trish has a stylish symbiosis with the new Dark Pharaoh "Wanted" Detriment? Like Finn and his Bank Loan.

"Everyone wants me. I'm used to it."

Tibs said:

Yes, that's what I meant. But that's not (yet) official. Official rules and clarifications have actually changed over the years, and the last official ruling was that you could only pick up the clues and deal with monsters on your new space during the movement phase. That may (not necessarily saying it will) be officially overturned again in the future, but for now it's in the realm of house-rules.

Many thanks. I wanted to check if this was a case of "can you pick up clues during an Encounter", etc. Sorry to the OP for diverting the topic.

OP's basic question was answered, but these are all good points to bring up. "What if"s in Arkham Horror are generally many and varied.

avec said:

Tibs said:

If it's ever clarified that when an encounter that moves you to another location (to have another encounter there) allows you to pick up clues on the space, and you pick up two or more, well then—that's "during the encounter" as well.

Heh. Didn't think of that.

You rules lawyer you ;'D good job.

Tibs said:

Yes, that's what I meant. But that's not (yet) official. Official rules and clarifications have actually changed over the years, and the last official ruling was that you could only pick up the clues and deal with monsters on your new space during the movement phase. That may (not necessarily saying it will) be officially overturned again in the future, but for now it's in the realm of house-rules.

What about clues appearing on your spot during the Mythos phase? Was this changed as well? As far as I remember, you're allowed to cash them in Phase V

Julia said:

What about clues appearing on your spot during the Mythos phase? Was this changed as well? As far as I remember, you're allowed to cash them in Phase V

That's the problem, as you say, for Phase V: Mythos on page 10 of the AH rules we have:-

2. Place Clue Token
"Most mythos cards indicate a location where a Clue token appears. Place a Clue token on the indicated location unless there is an open gate there. If one or more investigators are at that location, one of them (they should decide among themselves) may immediately take that Clue token. If the players cannot agree on who gets the Clue token, the first player decides."

So the actual rules state that you get to pick up existing clues at the end of Phase II: Movement and take new clues during Phase V: Mythos. The question is what about the Encounter phases, why can't you pick up clues during these phases as well.

I would be surprised if the comment

"the last official ruling was that you could only pick up the clues and deal with monsters on your new space during the movement phase"

was meant to overturn the fact that the rules do state you could take new clues during Phase V: Mythos. If the rulebook were to be changed in this way then I would expect that it would be reflected somewhere , in a FAQ update or in one of the game/expansion reprints.

As far as I can see, the official way of playing is that you may not pick up clues during Phase III: Arkham Encounters or in Phase IV: Other World Encounters (unless there is a card effect where you are specifically told you may do so).

Yes, you can take them during the Mythos phase. I just wanted to emphasize that you're not supposed to be able to take them by relocating during Arkham Encounters .

Tibs said:

Yes, you can take them during the Mythos phase. I just wanted to emphasize that you're not supposed to be able to take them by relocating during Arkham Encounters .

Ok, then, everything's working fine then ::relieved::