No more expansion boards for AH?

By mulletcheese, in Arkham Horror Second Edition

My copy of Miskatonic Horror arrived yesterday, some of the components seemed to suggest to me that there will be no more expanison boards for AH.

The Miskatonic University Institution namechecks all 3 expansions (Dunwich, Innsmouth and Kingsport) as locations that expeditions can be sent to, if FFG were planning more big box expansions wouldn't they have left this ability open ended instead of limiting it to the 3 known expansion boards?

The reference sheets contain information about monster and gate limits (etc.) for the number of investigators, each sheet also contains different limits depending on if Innsmouth and Dunwich are being used together or if all expansions are being used. It seemed odd that FFG would be able to assign values for 'all expansions' if they planned on releasing more big box expansions in the future as adding more boards would affect these limits.

In fairness to FFG, there is little else they could do. Arkham, Kingsport, Dunwich and Innsmouth are the main stories that are covered in the oeuvre. There are a lot of smaller places, but none of the scale of those metnioned above.

Here are a few locations that haven't been considered:

Dean's Corner and Aylesbury are mentioned in passing in The Dunwich Horror , Aylesbury Pike (a road which is mentioned in the Dunwich Horror and The Picture in the House ), Martin's Beach , Red Hook (which is a real district in New York, although nothing like the one mentioned in Lovecraft's incredibly xenophobic story, The Horror at Red Hook ), Witches Hollow (more an August Derleth creation based on Lovecraft's notes), Billington Estate (see previous), Rue d'Ausiel (the city is not mentioned, but it is implied to be Paris), and Akeley Farmhouse ( The whisperer in the Darkness ) . There are also works set in the Dreamlands, Providence, New York and Antarctica.

See my sig for a link to a board which cover some of these locations. I'm planning on expanding it to cover more as and when I get the time. Additionally, if you search on www.boardgamegeek.com you should find an Antarctic board, although it's a little light on encounters or motivation for players to go the Antarctic.

It's a common pastime to speculate about the next board. I suspect there won't be one. But if there is, the likeliest option might be the Dreamlands. The Antarctic is too far away. It would take the whole game just to get there. Providence is too "been there, done that." But a Dreamlands board would expand an aspect of the game that's been a part of the game from the very beginning. Plus it makes sense that the Institutions wouldn't interact with the Dreamlands board.

They could make an Antarctica/Dreamlands board, where the only way to Antarctica is via gate hopping. That would be pretty sick and it would get around the "take all game to get there" issue.

There is no need for more board expansions, but I could be happy with more card expansions. Packs that give you more Ancient Ones and Investigators would be nice. Perhaps occasionally more cards for locations, mythos and other world decks.

The_Big_Show said:

There is no need for more board expansions, but I could be happy with more card expansions. Packs that give you more Ancient Ones and Investigators would be nice. Perhaps occasionally more cards for locations, mythos and other world decks.

I kind of agree with that... If only for space reasons, when I take out the boards, I feel like the room they're in gets lost in time and space... More game variants and monsters! Monsteeeeers!

I think we had a wonderful blender expansion adding a lot of flavour to the game and fixing most of the dilution problems for all-in games. Maybe we will have a small box blender expansion with Heralds, AOs and monsters... ::dreaming::

Yes I thought the text implied that there wouldn't be any more expansions. Otherwise the text on the MH box will look ridiculous, claiming to add to every expansion.

However there could be more variants etc.

Other bits that seem likely are the already mentioned card in the novel. An ally I think.

there could be various other mail in offers for cards in future novels?

Also there were those new/updated GOOs at the Arkham Horror night, which could be released more generally. And there was a bag.

Could be more dice.

Monster token sleeves would be good, but probably not enough demand.

You may have to keep dreaming, Julia. AOs and investigators won't fit in a small box. Changing the box specs would cost FFG a bit of money, so you're likely to see them only in big-box printings.

Oh, and welcome back. I noticed you've been gone for a while.

I too am fine with no more board expansions as I feel the game is almost complete now. My buddy and I were thinking about this the other day and the idea came up that a nice hardcover book with offical thematic scenarios or AO/herald setups would be a nice addition. I know there are alot of these type of things on the forums but I really think an official release of a book would be great. Here is the idea fleshed out a bit more:

The book could be stories that tie in to each other or not. Each one has a game setup where it shows which AO and herald to use. I would love to see some pages have die-cut heralds that can be punched out for the chapter, or even special tokens, or cards needed for each story. I would also love to see each AO have an official herald that fits it thematically provided, as we only have a few currently.

Each chapter/story could even provide suggested player characters with a story along to build up to the game start.

Also, it might be nice to have a type of score sheet inside the book, where you could chart your progress through the stories and track score.

Of course this is simply fluff, but we currently struggle to decide which game setup to go with each game. We have run just about every AO at least once and alot of them multiple times with various heralds that make some sense thematically. A book like this would provide maybe 20 adventures or one big adventure split into 20 chapters, etc... This would also be a great way to provide expansion material, as in new AO's, heralds, etc... in a unique way.

Done right, it could lead to a trilogy of books or more and FFg could reap the benefits of providing content for years to come.

Bravo McWilley said:

My buddy and I were thinking about this the other day and the idea came up that a nice hardcover book with offical thematic scenarios or AO/herald setups would be a nice addition. I know there are alot of these type of things on the forums but I really think an official release of a book would be great.

I think this would be a great idea. I think a lot of folks loved playing the Summer League events (its how I got 6 of my friends started in AH) and a campaign book that recreated some of Lovecraft's full stories or recreated new missions would be fantastic. It might also be combined with some PoD material for those who wanted more professional Hearlds or cards/components for the game.

Maybe a few three act campaigns for the Dunwich Horror, Shadow Over Innsmouth or Whispers in the Dark stories again in the vein of the Summer League would be awesome. Also throw in shorter stand alone senerios for owners of the base set that thematically can be enhanced by the enclusion of a small box..

Julia said:

I think we had a wonderful blender expansion adding a lot of flavour to the game and fixing most of the dilution problems for all-in games. Maybe we will have a small box blender expansion with Heralds, AOs and monsters... ::dreaming::

That will make me feel less bitter about spending sixty bucks on Miskatonic ;'D like an addict, an addict I tell you! Just one more card! Please! Anything for just one more card!

There will likely be more additions, in the line of blenders like MH, but I doubt there wil be new boards. There could easily be, however, as all they would need to do is print new Player Reference sheets that replace the ones we have just been given.

I think Providence Horror would be the best choice for a new board (or the next blender even), I dont think it is too 'old hat'. why would it be? A little thought into how it would work as a mechanical aspect of the game would make any locale interesting and it would be cool to have an "Angell Street" unstable location(where HPL was born) or a "10 Barnes Street" (where HPL lived in his most prolific writing period and the place given as Dr. Willets home (Case of Charles Dexter Ward). And this would imo be a fitting send off for the line, far more fitting than a giant collectors edition costing half a life of wages.

Time will tell but I feel that more is coming, still. Most likely, more like what we have seen in MH

Tibs said:

You may have to keep dreaming, Julia. AOs and investigators won't fit in a small box. Changing the box specs would cost FFG a bit of money, so you're likely to see them only in big-box printings.

Oh, and welcome back. I noticed you've been gone for a while.

That's true. Changing printing format for boxes will be a major cost for the factory. Maybe on a print-on-demand series of expansions? Don't know... but dreaming is free of charge, so why not keep on doing it?

And thx. Yeah, I'm not often on-line during these days because I'm moving and in the new home I don't have a net access yet ::sobbing::

The reference sheets in Miskatonic say something like this:

Open gate limit: 7

Using all expansion game boards: 9

The fact that it says "all" and not "three" means they were not planning to make this retroactively applicable.

I'm a little bit jealous. I'm reading a lot, where you said "what about next expansion ?"..

Meanwhile, i'm still waiting for MH !!! Cause i need to wait for translation. There should be a minimum period of time during which no one can speak about the next expansion. Should be forbidden as long as everyone can't have access to the last expansion in it's own language...

Grrr :/

Tibs said:

The reference sheets in Miskatonic say something like this:

Open gate limit: 7

Using all expansion game boards: 9

The fact that it says "all" and not "three" means they were not planning to make this retroactively applicable.

Why? Why could it not mean that no matter how many more expansion boards are added, the limit will still be 9?

I agree that there most likely won't be any more large box expansions but I don't see why this is a confirmation or not.

Because why did they write "all" and not "three"? What happens if another expansion board comes out? Do they need to scrap the player references?

Tibs said:

Because why did they write "all" and not "three"? What happens if another expansion board comes out? Do they need to scrap the player references?

The 4 player ref sheet says this (as per the image you posted on BGG).

Open Gate Limit: 7
Using Dunwich and Innsmouth expansion game boards: 8
Using all expansion boards: 9

So using "Dunwich and Kingsport" or "Innsmouth and Kingsport" means the gate limit is still 7. If they add another "non-gate location" expansion board (as they did with Kingsport) then it might require all four expansions boards to make the limit 9. Yes, it might be odd that it seems the limit is no longer 9 gates if you have Dunwich, Innsmouth and Kingsport but if doesn't mean they might not do it (it's not as if we haven't seen huge inconsistencies with the rules for AH before). I'm just pointing out that the current wording on those ref sheets can't really be taken as proof either.