Sorrry guys, another question:

My opponents kenlt one of his location, where says "Kneel this to let your dragon immune to opponent's triggered effects...", something like this. I'm wondering what these effects are? As far as I know, this could mean my Response is not useful to his dragon... how about others? Can I still use events to his dragon? Can I use attachment to his dragon? Can I use my character's active skills (like any phase kneeling someone to reduce one's STR, etc.)?

Thank you a lot.

Any effect that is preceded by Any Phase, Plot, Draw, Marshaling, Challenges, Dominance, Standing, Taxation or Response in bold and a colon is a triggered effect. Check the FAQ for a better understanding (open FAQ and do a search for "Triggered Effects").

the1andonlime said:

Great! Thank you for your help.

the1andonlime said:

Wana to make sure we played correctly..

For Plot such as, Fury of the Wolves. "after winning a M challenge, player choses a HG/ HS to kill ". Does this consider triggered Effects and can be cancel using events card.

Thanks

While in english it makes sense that "Fury of the x" has an effect that is triggered, This does not mean it is a "Triggered Effect" in game terms.

It really is as simple as the1 describes it. If it does not have the bolded phase colon at the start (eg. "Marshalling:"), then it is not a triggered effect.

So in conclusion... Joffrey is NOT immune to the effects of Fury of the Wolf.

oshi said:

Thanks Oshi..

A little more information on this:

The true definition of a triggered effect is one that initiates only because a player decides they want it to. The "short hand" of the bolded trigger word (phase name or Response) is pretty much 100% effective in identifying them because that trigger word is the indication of "the player chooses to do this."

When you look at things like the Fury plots, those effects happen when a condition is met ("winning an X challenge," for example) whether you want them to or not. For example, maybe you don't want to kill an extra character when you have Fury of the Wolf, but the plot doesn't give you a choice. You have to do it. Ultimately, that is the difference between a "triggered" effect and a passive effect.

It's easy to get confused, though, because most players tend to say that the passive "triggers" when its conditions are met.

ktom said:

It's not only most players, it's also the FAQ.

On the subject of immunity to triggered effects, wouldn't "Tales of the Red Keep" Joffrey be immune to his own triggered effect?

For reference, it reads: "After an opponent's character is knelt, play 1 gold to stand Joffrey Baratheon. Then, he claims one power."

Joffrey has the text: "Immune to triggered effects".

I must be missing something because it doesn't make sense that they'd give him an ability that he could never use.

Anyone?

(3.17) Self-Immunity
A card with immunity is not immune to its
own abilities.

~Do people read the FAQ?

ktom said:

Thanks, ktom. I guess I'm one of those who glance over the FAQ rather than read it closely.

ktom said:

Thank you for your precise answer.