Adeptus Mechanicus; Supplement or Core rule book?

By Huros, in Dark Heresy

Been pondering this for a while.

Really want an Admech book, but it occured to me that FFG mught do another core system in the near future and the scope within the Admech is enough to pull this off. Just thinking about the book as a suppliment project is mind boggling. It is another Human Empire just like the Emperors, with all that entails like the religion and heirachy, forges etc etc.

So would you like to see an Admech Source book for one of the current systems, or as a new Core rule book like the Black Crusade?

soucre book! core means primary game ADmec is part of the overall empire even if its a somewhat relucted and semi-seprate part of it

Well the AdMech is present in all games of the franchise (DH, RT, DW, and even BC with its Dark counterpart), so a game primarily centered on it would feel like too much of it, maybe.

And what's more, I don't think you can really make something much different from what you already do with the other settings (exploration/adventure/treasure hunting? See RT...Evil villain who tries to subdue holy machine spirits? See DH...Crazy Dark Mech guy who wants to awaken a Titan Legion to bring destruction to the Galaxy? See DW...).

So more of a source book. Plus it could have some really nice fluff in it. And lotsa goodies for our beloved characters to use!

Source book. A core book would have too much overlap.

Still, I love the cogboys and I would definitely pick up this hypothetical source book. Skitarii alternate ranks and background packages! Tech-assassins (that aren't hereteks)! More augmentations! Mechanicus fluff! It'd all be so great.

Prefer a Universal Sourcebook. Meaning an AdMech book that is written with the intent of being useable for all the games. Notes for how Skitarri can be PCs in all the games and so forth.

I say supplement. I can't see the Mechanicus carrying a whole game themselves...

Adeptus-B said:

I say supplement. I can't see the Mechanicus carrying a whole game themselves...

we thought that about Chaos....

However i think Peacekeeper_B's idea of a cross game source book would be the best, but very large project. But then it would need to address the Hereteks, Knights, Titans, plus heirachy forge worlds, explorator fleets, genetors, Legio Cibernetica... what have i missed?

one of the interesting parts is the interaction of 'normal citizens of the forge worlds. the back ground and interaction with the mechanicus clergy. what about noble or political power in the mechanicum world, those non ordained citizens.

What about Lay-priests? those who preach the teachings of the Omnissah but are not tech priests, there must be many of them.

Being a fan of Adeptus Mechanicus to an unhealthy degree, I'd buy an entire game about them.

That said, I don't really think it's viable, not anymore than an entire game about Adeptus Arbites or the Imperial Guard - technically possible, but better fit for being a part of a game with wider themes. Tech-Priests permeate all strata of the Imperial society, and can be found wherever there's some piece of technology, but this diversification of functions and "power levels" doesn't lend itself too well to making a stand-alone game. Not to mention that out of four existing 40k games, three can be easily adapted to an AdMech game already:

Dark Heresy - either an entire cell of Tech-Priest Acolytes hunting down Hereteks for the Inquisition, or dispense with the Inquisition entirely and have a Magos as your patron/questgiver.

Rogue Trader - instead of the titular character, have an Explorator holding the ship, and suddenly the entire game is about AdMech.

Black Crusade - with the amount of customization this game is supposed to allow, playing an all-Heretek team should be viable and enjoyable.

The only game where I can't see it is Deathwatch - having an entire Kill Team of Techmarines seems... silly, and Techmarines aren't that different from their differently specialized brethren when it comes to personalities, motivations and goals.

I was greatly disappointed, aggravated even, when there was no mention of an AdMech sourcebook in the booklet about upcoming DH releases. Hopefully, we will get such a book eventually, and not just after GW decides to publish an AdMech Codex :)

In the meantime, I'm waiting for BC. From the spoilers, it seems the Heretek will get lots of new toys.

Huros said:

we thought that about Chaos....

No, we didn't.

Chaos has never been 'too small' to make a game of on its own. But the Adeptus Mechanicus actually is, cause in the end, it'd just be one of the other games with more bionics and exotic technology.

And because someone might bring it up, a Chaos game really is more than just throwing some additional powers at one of the currently existing games.

I think at least the Mechanicus should get a sourcebook. The Ecclesiarchy got one, the Mechanicus would make for a great subject. More about Forge Worlds, all the layers of society of the Mechanicus, new careers for Tech-Priests, and lots of nifty gear and augmentations. Since Explorators are so prevalent in RT, it could be a cross-game book like Daemon Hunters is for DH and DW. Include information on just what is and is not tech-heresy, and include elements for hereteks to come up with new adversaries in DH and DW.

And ditto for Skitarii career options for Guardsman. They are wicked!

I don't know about a AdMech standalone game. Its interesting, but not interesting enough to enough people. Personally, I think FFG is done with new Imperium focused games for now; or at least, I hope so. I'm holding out for after BC, they do my dream game....WAAAGH!!!: A Game of Orkish Aggression!

I dont think you will see a Ork RPG, instead it will probably be a broader sourcebook for Rogue Trader with notes for Deathwatch and other games in it. Afterall, the core for orcs is already in RT. Same with Kroot. I believe all your Xenos PCs will be in RT with maybe one or two popping up in Black Crusade.

Adeptue Mechanicus I think would work best for Dark Heresy primarily because it is easier to scale up then it is to scale down. A side bar stating a few additional adds for a career for use with RT is easier then one that removes stuff.

However, we still have a few books on the existing list for Dark Heresy (Only War, Book of Judgement, 2 parts to the campaign series) so at best we would see these books in 2012. 2012 I trust will bring us books that cover tech-priests, adepts and psykers. And I hav a bad feeling it will all be one book.

Morangias said:

Being a fan of Adeptus Mechanicus to an unhealthy degree, I'd buy an entire game about them.

As would I, but I doubt they'd go that far. I'd be happy with an Adeptus Mechanicus book for Dark Heresy in the same style as Blood of Martyrs and Daemon Hunter.

BYE

Peacekeeper_b said:

...However, we still have a few books on the existing list for Dark Heresy (Only War, Book of Judgement, 2 parts to the campaign series) so at best we would see these books in 2012. 2012 I trust will bring us books that cover tech-priests, adepts and psykers. And I hav a bad feeling it will all be one book.

Admech in a book with pencil pushers and wierdos would be an EPIC FAIL for FFG. there is too much to cover to roll in with other classes. Pray to the Machine God they do not do it.