Order of Resolution

By Locusshifter, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

There is currently no power on characters.

If a Targ player would claim one power per participating dragon at the end of a successful challenge, and I as a Martell player would move one power from a character to "this character", whose ability resolves first?

Fieras answers this in his response to the "correct usage of deadly" thread. Check out his answer there. Ellaria would trigger her response after renown was awarded, and so would be able to steal that power that was just claimed in the "responses" step.

You need to be specific about which abilities you are talking about here. If you are talking about Ellaria Sand on the Martell side and Rhaegal on the Targ side, both are Responses. So we're not talking about Renown and ASoIaF's answer wouldn't apply.

The order of Responses is that the First Player has the first opportunity, then clockwise. But mo player actually has to trigger the Response if he doesn't want to. You could end up playing "chicken," both passing on Response opportunities, and closing out the window without triggering either one.

ktom said:

You need to be specific about which abilities you are talking about here. If you are talking about Ellaria Sand on the Martell side and Rhaegal on the Targ side, both are Responses. So we're not talking about Renown and ASoIaF's answer wouldn't apply.

The order of Responses is that the First Player has the first opportunity, then clockwise. But mo player actually has to trigger the Response if he doesn't want to. You could end up playing "chicken," both passing on Response opportunities, and closing out the window without triggering either one.

This is exactly it. I admit I should have dug out the cards but those are the characters in question.

I thought that might be the case, however I didn't know the responses were optional.

Thank you for the answer.

Locusshifter said:

I thought that might be the case, however I didn't know the responses were optional.

Card effects that are prefaced with Response: or [Phase:] are called triggered effects. They are always optional, and it's up to the player who controls the card (usually) if they are triggered or not. The difference between Responses and other triggered effects is that they are triggered at different points in the timing structure. Card effects that are not preceded by boldface text are either keywords or passive effects or constant effects; they must be resolved, if the players wish to or not. Check out the FAQ if you wish to get familiar with this stuff.

Ratatoskr said:

Locusshifter said:

I thought that might be the case, however I didn't know the responses were optional.

Card effects that are prefaced with Response: or [Phase:] are called triggered effects. They are always optional, and it's up to the player who controls the card (usually) if they are triggered or not. The difference between Responses and other triggered effects is that they are triggered at different points in the timing structure. Card effects that are not preceded by boldface text are either keywords or passive effects or constant effects; they must be resolved, if the players wish to or not. Check out the FAQ if you wish to get familiar with this stuff.

except for stealth, you can choose to stealth out a character or not

ktom said:

You need to be specific about which abilities you are talking about here. If you are talking about Ellaria Sand on the Martell side and Rhaegal on the Targ side, both are Responses. So we're not talking about Renown and ASoIaF's answer wouldn't apply.

The order of Responses is that the First Player has the first opportunity, then clockwise. But mo player actually has to trigger the Response if he doesn't want to. You could end up playing "chicken," both passing on Response opportunities, and closing out the window without triggering either one.

Yes, of course. I assumed renown because of how the question was worded (nothing mentioned of responses putting the power on the characters). As usual, Ktom gives the more complete answer. I'll just step off to the side now. Don't mind me.