Question on Response Chains

By the1andonlime, in 2. AGoT Rules Discussion

Is it possible to chain responses to attain certain results?

For example, if I can somehow give Killer of the Wounded the ability to kneel to give a character -1 STR as a response to that character getting -1 STR, can stand and kneel KotW multiple times to reduce that character's STR to 0?

What happens if I reveal Fear of Winter? Can I use KotW from the above example to discard any number of characters from play?

Thanks in advance.

Killer of the Wounded
Gold (2) STR (2) Military Power
[Targaryen Character]
Dothraki.

Response: After a character's STR is reduced by a card effect, stand Killer of the Wounded.

Threat from the North
Gold Inc (2) Initiative (4) Claim (1)
[Neutral Plot]

All characters get -1 STR and are discarded from play (cannot be saved) if their STR is 0.

the1andonlime said:

Is it possible to chain responses to attain certain results?

For example, if I can somehow give Killer of the Wounded the ability to kneel to give a character -1 STR as a response to that character getting -1 STR, can stand and kneel KotW multiple times to reduce that character's STR to 0?

What happens if I reveal Fear of Winter? Can I use KotW from the above example to discard any number of characters from play?

Thanks in advance.

Killer of the Wounded
Gold (2) STR (2) Military Power
[Targaryen Character]
Dothraki.

Response: After a character's STR is reduced by a card effect, stand Killer of the Wounded.

Threat from the North
Gold Inc (2) Initiative (4) Claim (1)
[Neutral Plot]

All characters get -1 STR and are discarded from play (cannot be saved) if their STR is 0.

Lead Link is only once per phase if that is what you were considering, but otherwise if you could find a way to give him the ability without limits then yes you could kneel and stand him multiple times.

The "combo" is Killer of the wounded + Learned Crest(slightly more complicated part but irrelevant) + House of Shadow (Isle of ravens)

by "isle of ravens" i totally mean "mask of the archmaester". And just FYI learned crest is gained through equipping the Harp then playing "Litany of Light"

So, there would be no issue in the sequencing to respond to "Threat from the north" with House of shadow to minus another 1 strength, KotW stand, respond to HoS with HoS to minus another 1 strength, KotW stand, etc. and proceed all around the board until all opponents characters are discarded?

This also makes any burn with a kill@0 tag lethal.

The problem is that the effect of Threat From The North is a constant effect, and I don't think you can play responses to constant effects. I mean, when would that occur? Apart from that, I don't see why the combo with Killer of the Wounded, Rhaegar's Harp (or Copper Link), Litany of Light and House of Shadow wouldn't work. To set it off, you'd just need a burn effect you can respond to. Field of Fire should work like a charm.

Ratatoskr said:

I don't think you can play responses to constant effects.

You can, except cancel response.

Rogue30 said:

You can, except cancel response.

Really? But when would they be triggered? You can only execute responses within Action Wndows. Are you saying that, within any given Action Window, you can not only trigger responses to the respective Action and any Responses and Passives that derive from it, but also to any unrelated constant effects that may be active at the time? The FAQs seem to directly contradict that:

"[...] a player may trigger normal responses for any opportunity that has occurred at any time during this Action Window - either spurred from the action itself, or spurred from other responses, or passive abilities, resolved previously during the Action Window."

Ah, I get it now, I think. You could play responses to a constant effect in the Action Window when the Constant effect is created. In the example at hand, that would be the Framework Action Window when TftN is revealed.

In that case, Copper Link wouldn't work, unless you have a way to kneel your Maester in the Plot Phase.

Ratatoskr said:

Ah, I get it now, I think. You could play responses to a constant effect in the Action Window when the Constant effect is created. In the example at hand, that would be the Framework Action Window when TftN is revealed.