Paper Shield states: "Response: cancel the effect of an event card just played that does not have a gold or influence cost."

If I were to play Confession ("Any phase: Kneel 3 influence or kneel a Holy-crest character to look at an opponent's hand. Then, discard 1 non-limited card from that hand"), by kneeling a Holy-crest character, can it be cancelled by Paper Shield?

I can see this going either way -

1) the actual cost I used to play the event was kneeling a character, so YES Paper Shield can cancel it.

2) In terms of cost, Confession can be initiated using 2 different costs in the "Do X to Y" format. Do kneel 3 influence -> look at hand. OR Do kneel a Holy-crest -> look at hand. Does the event still have an influence cost even if I don't use that method to pay for it? So NO Paper Shield cannot cancel it.

The answer is here.

Thanks Fatmouse!

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We are now debating on French forum wether or not Paper Shild can cancel Shadow Politics.

Some indications may be found in the FAQ and in the Shadow rules about Cost definition and playing Shadow events.

Some says the 1 Gold spent to bring the event out of the Shadows is not part of the event cost and I tend to agree because the event is treated as if it was played from your hand only AFTERWARDS you have spent that gold, which do NOT have been spent to play the event.

As for the 2 Golds spent to play the card in the Shadows (possibly a few rounds earlier), it would seem this IS part of the cost because it is "part of the ressource you must spend to play the event" (FAQ p.11).

=> Cost = 2 (for the purpose of Papershield)

=> Printed Cost = 3 (as per the Shadow Rules)

Some says that the event cost for the purpose of Papershield is 0 so it would be able to cancel Shadow Politics.

Other says that the 1 Gold spent to bring Shadow politics out of the Shadows is part of the cost.

So what is your answer : 0, 1, 2 or 3? :-)

Bolzano -

asked and answered here.

Thanks!

It the topic you have linked we can find this from Nate :

"The printed gold cost on Shadow effects is to bring the card out of Shadows, not to trigger the event's effect (which is a response to the event coming out of Shadows).

If the response effect itself has no textual gold or influence cost, it can be canceled by Paper Shield."

However I'm not sure I understand why the two gold I have payed to play the event (by playing it into the Shadows) are not included in the cost - even tough it have been played in an other player action.

Bolzano said:

Well, I guess that's for ktom to answer, but I don't think that I see the difference. One is the cost of bringing a card out of shadows, not the cost of the effect itself. The other is the cost to play a card into shadows, not the cost of the effect itself. *shrugs*

Bolzano said:

1) As Rat says, the 2-gold cost to play into Shadows is not part of the direct cost to trigger the effect. This is consistent with Nate's answer that the cost to bring the card out of Shadows is not part of the effect's cost. If the cost to bring it out of Shadows (which is much more closely related to the effect cost) doesn't count, the cost to put it into Shadows wouldn't either.

2) When you play the card into Shadows, you are not playing an event. The identity of the card is hidden. So it cannot be part of the consideration for play restrictions. Think of Tyrion. When you "play" him into Shadows, you cannot trigger the Castellen or something that Responds to playing a Lord from your hand because the identity as a Lannister Lord character is hidden when you play it. And when you bring him out of Shadows, the fact that you "played" him is far enough in the past as to not be valid for play restrictions in the current action window. Playing a Shadow event would be the same as far as Paper Shield is considered. The fact that it is an event is hidden when you "play" it, and when you bring it out of Shadows, the fact that you "played" it from your hand into Shadows (and paid 2 gold to do so) is far enough in the past as to not be valid for play restrictions in the current action window.