Nemomon said:

Hey Nemomon,

Huh, not that i know...

why do you think that?

Anyway, i will buy this expansion off course, but if some people don´t like it, then they must not buy it:)

Greetings,

Velhart

That would actually surprise me. Up until now, the expansions have been very modular, where you could split them up in 3 or 4 ("Characters", "Spells", "Quests", "Endings", "Reaper Man", "Adventure cards for smaller expansions", "New region board + adventure cards + treasure cards for larger expansions". It would be odd if it would suddenly be all different for the Dragon set.

The Dragon Tower board looks cool, though. With the Draw cards, you never know what to expect. The following image clearly shows at least 2 Draw 3 cards places:

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/Talisman/The%20Dragon%20expansion/talisman-the-dragon-board.png

I do assume there are also some fixed events here and there and you probably need a Talisman just before you reach the Crown of Command. Events that send you to the Plain of Peril or the Crown of Command probably send you to equivalent spaces on the Dragon Tower.

Presumably you draw the cards from the deck relating to the current Dragon Lord. Are the cards only for this, or are these cards also drawn on the outer and middle region from spaces occupied by a token. In the 1st case, you won't use the cards very often, which would be a shame. In the 2nd case, it would mean the cards won't be extremely hard, as you're supposed to survive them in the outer region as well. The spaces don't seem to have a Runes like effect, which makes me wonder if it might be worthwhile to dive in there for drawing the cards, even if you don't expect to be strong enough to defeat the endboss (you might very well be by the time you meet him).

Thels said:

Maybe you need a talisman at the beginning of the tower....as in third edition

Thels said:

As it is mentioned in the news about the dragon expansion, it effects the land. That means that the dragon tokens can show up on the mainboard, and also in the regions.

I hope that cloak of feathers and arnkell are not allowed in the dragon tower.

That would steal away the fun for me.

people can easily go on killing the eagle king, to get arnkell, and using it in the dragon tower, to skip all those turns going up, and landing immediately on the end space...

Velhart said:

You are right but on the other hand i hope that old mechanics still remain;new expansions should not delete anything in old ones.

lost.prophet said:

True, but i think that if somebody has also a horse, and is running and running through the highland, to get a 1/4 chance on arkell, then this idea will be quicker and less dangerous than moving upstairs in the tower with only 1 movement space..

I wonder if other players will use this trick...

Finally the Dragon get into the Boat so you can start to fear as it is travelling nearer nad nearer...

Wow! On the boat already??

The dragons are flying fast towards us!

It will arrive in august!

That's next month

Velhart said:

Expected by: August 2011

Definitely looks like it!

Velhart said:

That's about the tokens, not the cards, right?

Or maybe tokens will make you draw cards from the appropriate dragon deck, rather than from the regular adventure deck.

Hmm I have tried and zoom in on the dragon board and what I can make out it seems as the spaces on the first side of the board are the same as the one's right now in Inner Region, where they only changed it to a dragon theme. I really hope this is not the case because I was hoping for a bit more challenging inner region especially the Werewolf space which is very lame imo, to easy.

Have pre- ordered my copy today.

Thels said:

You need the tokens to draw from the 3 dragon lord decks. It depends which dragon lord token you will draw.

If you land on a dragon token, then you may not draw normal adventure, or region cards, because the instructions on the space are ignored

PS: i am only wondering how many cards you may draw per dragon token. If the instructions on the space are ignored, then draw 2 card spaces have no effect on it? maybe you may draw 1 card per dragon token that is laying on the space..

I'd rather hope they stay to just one card in the outer and middle region.

Remember, the tower has mostly Draw 2 places with some Draw 1 and Draw 3 places. If the cards need to provide enough of a challenge for the endgame when encountered with 2, I wouldn't like to see 2 of them when just starting to level my character.

I also wonder, how much bigger is the board than the Inner Region is on the BI version? I guess it's a nice match on the FFG version which is bigger.

I should've bought the FFG version back then, rather than buying the upgrade pack. :-(

Thels said:

It could be possible that you must draw 1 dragon lord card on a draw 1 space, but i don't know if more tokens can show up on one space..

Thels said:

I have no problem with that

The mainboard has mostly draw 1 card spaces, but you could encounter more cards in other regions on draw 2+ spaces

IF the draw card spaces are combined(for drawing cards) with the dragon tokens.

We will see it later, if the rules will show up on the ffg site..

I hope that all the retro cards from the Dragon expansion 2th are included

At least we saw the Sacrificial Stone..

I assume that we get all sorts of dragon type objects..

We must defend ourselves against the horde of dragons

It's time to grab the Dragon Spear again...

I can't wait anymore.. i want it now

I think that we will play the most with the new dragon tower board.

It's the ultimate ending for me

Then i don't have to use the alternative endings anymore

Although, sacred pool, warlock quest and judgement day are nice idea's..

Velhart said:

... and the Exorcist's Blade

Felis said:

Exorcist blade is indeed a very good weapon.

It's funny that we have a Exorcist character now

There is also the Psionic Wand..

Velhart said:

Not very official that Exorcist is

Nemomon said:

It's somehow official, because it's also from FFG

But not 100%, because it's also from mephisto.

Who cares anyway. As long as Fantasy flight have made them official, then it's fine with me.

Otherwise it would be homebrew characters, and i would not using them..

Let's get on topic..

i am really hoping that you can't use the backdoor to the coc in the dungeon to teleport to the top of the tower

Otherwise, players can avoid the tower if they choose for the dungeon, and they can skip all those turns that are needed to go upstairs.

The tower has no meaning anymore then..

My guess would be that they can't skip through the tower. Rationally, the tower is akin to an AltEnd, which is encountered after reaching the CoC. But again, its another question yet to be answered for certain.

JCHendee said:

Yes, but if you look to the dragon tower board, you see a crown, with the text: Crown of command.

And the treasure chamber in the dungeon can teleport a character to the crown of command space..

So i assume that it brings you to the top of the tower...

I hope that fantasy flight has made a rule for this..

Interesting point, and of course this is part of the problem of taking the 3E tower and flattening it to spread it across the entire region. I agree (in hope) that there's a mod built into this scenario that will gimp all those shortcuts (by board or card) into the CoC. But if not, gimp them yourself. Me and mine already have for current realm boards... otherwise the game is just monotonously boring since the obvious taken for the fastest win is always the same.