Dragon owners are cruel! They don't want to spoil us any new cards....

Only 6 dragon cards have been posted on boardgamegeek...

I was just wondering about a situation with dragon tokens and the region boards.

The rules are saying that if you must placed a dragon token on your space, and there is already a dragon token, then you must placed it counter clockwise on the next space.

The region boards are not round, so there is a chance that the dragon tokens will reach the end of the board (eagle king, or dungeon lord) and then the board stops.

The board is not full of dragon tokens, so dragon rage, can not be triggered.

I wonder if you may place it counter clockwise after the end boss, at the beginning of that region?...

Otherwise it will be difficult to fill the region boards with dragon tokens, and nothing will happen when the placement of dragon tokens will reach the end boss..

I'd say ask the designer. I see what you're saying, I would just not add any more tokens if what you're talking about actually happens, but then that would be the start of a house rule.

Blackalliance said:

Well, John Goodenough, will not give us any answer for expansions that has not been released more than a month, so we must wait longer until we can ask this question.

Reading the last news again about the Highland and the dungeon expansion, it seems that FFG knows that dungeon is for High level characters, and Highland for early/mid level characters. So their intention was to made a difference between those boards. Killing lots of enemies in the dungeon, and decreasing enemies in the Highland etc. Still..... adding only a lot of enemies in the dungeon is a bit boring..

Maybe i need to go more into the Highland then with around 5 a 6 strenght, because i have almost never travel to that board.

I wonder what the Dragon expansion will do with the Highland board, especially with domain of dragon ending

Maybe it becomes a more interesting place to go...

I still don't really understand why you never go to the Highland... - well, if you always play strength characters, I'd understand it.

Highlands is a nice place to go with craft characters, always has been (at least for me).

The players of my group almost never visit the Dungeon, guess the first experiences were a little too bad.

And since beating the LoD with going to the crown takes quite some time, I don't see much of a point other than playing a strength character to go there.

Highland board is constantly visited in our games, since the rewards are far higher than the risks. It has little more Enemies than the main board, Events can be nasty but they're nothing compared to Sacred Pool harassments and there's plenty of Gold, Objects, Pools over there. The Relics at the end are useful and very easy to get, since a Str 8 Cft 8 Eagle King can be beaten by most Characters within the first third of a game (a Craft Character with Brainwave can immediatly fight with the same stats and hope to win). On the fun side, the Highland has become a favourite because of Trinkets, since we drink a toast every time a player draws one.

Dungeon board is tackled only occasionally by Characters that are already over the top or by daring players who try some draws early on. Main board is always the centre of the game, but with Sacred Pool there are lots of dangers out there.

I don't think the Dragon Expansion is going to make Highland (or Dungeon) more appealing. Most likely they will become more dangerous because of scales and if they get covered by tokens they might become dead ends for most Characters. You can't easily get out when you venture deeply inside Dungeon or Highland.

Shifting Spirit said:

The reason i have almost never been there, is because i feel there are lots of objects, and less enemies there.

but maybe i must try it out, and spent more time there.

We have always play on the mainboard, and after that, we go to the dungeon board....

My first experience with the Highland was also bad..( i drew lodestone and vagebond and i never went in again..)

The_Warlock said:

I agree that the Highland or dungeon can become more dangerous with the dragon scales.

But for highland, it will be a good mix, if some dragons will show up there, because of the low strength/craft ememies there.

Anyway, the dragons will show up everywhere, including the mainboard too, so this gives us more reason to go to the Highlands..

I hope it will be released soon, because i like to see how fast the dragons will spawn on the boards..

Seems like the expansion has been delayed..

It's 1 september now.

No august release...

Its always seemed to me that anybody going into the Highlands is going to be ahead of the the rest of the pack when he/she gets out. I remember going straight to the Highlands and feeling like I was cheating because I drew almost no bad cards and came out stronger than everyone else, but that's you're supposed to do.

As a side note, I've never seen any discussion about the idea of middle region cards. If it's already been discussed or created, I haven't come across it yet. The middle region does have a different theme with the Temple, 3 Desert locations, 2 Runes locations, the Cursed Glade, etc. Some people have said that the end of the game seems anti-climatic and if someone dominates the game over everyone else, it certainly can be anti-climatic. I think the middle region could be made to feel like more of an entirely new area by using cards that are linked together with a middle region theme. I don't have the actual time to take on the project, but I wonder if Fantasy Flight Games would look at the possiblity of doing it.

Velhart said:

United States release date is September 12th, it's not an official date but some web retailers and amazon.com have this as a release date.

Blackalliance said:

Oke, it sounds that it is still worth to visit the Highlands.

Next time, i will go there to see how the game goes if characters are in the highland and others are on the mainboard etc

I wish i could play the game more often, then i could try these things out..

Blackalliance said:

I see indeed that amazon.com says that it will be released on september 12th

As for the counter-clockwise discussion. We play that the going down is clock wise and counter clockwise is coming out. Just look how the travel starts into the region and that is the clue you use to determine the clock and counter-clock answer.

danjr said:

Yes, but the problem still remains if all the spaces are filled with tokens (counter clockwise) to the Highland entrance, or dungeon entrance.

I wonder if it is allowed to place it on the endboss then

Read through your posts again, Velhart.

Seems you missed something - there can't be any tokens landing on LoD/EK, because you don't
stay there.

Instead, the question would be, if you're standing on the entrance of the two regions, do you
a) don't place a scale or b) place it on the main board?

And I don't get your last post... - I think placing them counter-clockwise is quite clear.

Shifting Spirit said:

I agree that you don't stay on the LOD/EK, but if there is already a token on a space, then it is going to the next space etc

oke, it's counter clockwise, But how can the whole region be infested with dragon tokens, if all the spaces towards the entrace are filled with dragon tokens, except the last spaces in that region.?..

then the endboss space can never have a dragon token, and dragon rage can not be triggered...

The trouble will already start if for example the first 5 spaces are covered with dragon tokens and you are standing on the 4th space. Where does the token go to, because the region is not round..

That's part of the problem, right. Hope we get some answers soon...

But what is clear is that there really won't be any tokens on LoD/EK, 'cause 1) you don't stay there and 2) there is no place after them so there is no place you could be standing on to place them there - only in case you're standing at the entrance and should put the next token on LoD/EK then, though the rules don't give us anything on it...

Not very crystal clear, I have to agree...

Shifting Spirit said:

Unless a FAQ entry clarifies that the last spaces of Dungeon and Highland don't need to have a scale for the Dragon Rage to be triggered, it won't be possible to fully extend the Dragon influence to the corner regions. Which is thematically fine in my opinion, since the Dragon Kings struggle to gain power over the mainland while Lord of Darkness and Eagle King still control at least the inner parts of their domains.

When you stand on the Entrance spaces, I don't know what to do with scales. Perhaps put a scale on the main board, but who knows...

In any case, I think it's not possible to fill a corner region with scales. They're very big (30 spaces) and a scale is placed only when a new dragon king is crowned (every 3-7 turns). Characters need to take 90-140 Turns on a corner board WITHOUT claiming a single dragon scale. Is it possible? I don't think so. We're talking about a non-existent issue here.

The main board is more likely to be filled with scales, though, especially in the early game when they can't be easily defeated if they're Enemies.

Looks like my Amazon order has shipped. I should have this expansion soon.

S3v3n11 said:

When you have it, please show us some cards from dragon decks

S3v3n11 said:

How is that possible..?

In the upcoming list on fantasy flight, it still says that it is on the boat

It needs updating that's all lol

Ell.