Talisman: The Dragon Expansion - The newly announced expansion from FFG

By Toothless_Night_Fury, in Talisman

Cruan said:

Your thoughts?

You think Minotaur can use a Riding Horse and receive bonus up to 12 during his next battle? That would be pretty much imbalanced, hes still good even so, from the start, before he gets stronger, hes got Str from 5 to 10 in almost every battle, not bad, not bad.

I think the answer is hidden in the text on the Minotaur's card itself:

Whenever you are about to engage in battle during your turn, you may stampede and add the result of your movement die to your Strength until the end of the battle.

So... when Minotaur rides a horse, he adds the result of only one chosen movement die. Not a whole movement roll.

Rimmer said:

Cruan said:

Your thoughts?

You think Minotaur can use a Riding Horse and receive bonus up to 12 during his next battle? That would be pretty much imbalanced, hes still good even so, from the start, before he gets stronger, hes got Str from 5 to 10 in almost every battle, not bad, not bad.

I think the answer is hidden in the text on the Minotaur's card itself:

Whenever you are about to engage in battle during your turn, you may stampede and add the result of your movement die to your Strength until the end of the battle.

So... when Minotaur rides a horse, he adds the result of only one chosen movement die. Not a whole movement roll.

But the horse is not his own movementgui%C3%B1o.gif It says: Your movement die

So he can't use his stampede move..

Minotaur can better not ride a horse thenlengua.gif

Velhart said:

Rimmer said:

Cruan said:

Your thoughts?

You think Minotaur can use a Riding Horse and receive bonus up to 12 during his next battle? That would be pretty much imbalanced, hes still good even so, from the start, before he gets stronger, hes got Str from 5 to 10 in almost every battle, not bad, not bad.

I think the answer is hidden in the text on the Minotaur's card itself:

Whenever you are about to engage in battle during your turn, you may stampede and add the result of your movement die to your Strength until the end of the battle.

So... when Minotaur rides a horse, he adds the result of only one chosen movement die. Not a whole movement roll.

But the horse is not his own movementgui%C3%B1o.gif

So he can't use his stampede move..

Minotaur can better not ride a horse thenlengua.gif

I disagree about this one lengua.gif IMHO it is his movement die and his movement. Some clarification would be useful.

Dragon Rider is the weakest character. He/she basically has just 1 ability , +3 attack vs dragons which is rather weak since dragons are scarce. Second ability, mounting a dragon is also unimpressive. Sure it gives a very nice movement capabilites, and warrior like ability is nice to have. But this is at a cost of 1 strength point from the trophy which near the end game may be quite valuable.

Conjurer seems broken. If idol shows its face, Conjurer can pray at temple during every turn. It's good there is just 1 fate for this character.

Fire Wizard is like a reverse cleric/priest. For most of the game his ability will read "you can automatically defeat strenght enemy, but don't take trophy". One of the problems with cleric was that he was destroying spirits while in most cases gaining a trophy was a better idea. Fire wizard can forget about pumping strenght and just concentrate on raising craft. His ability is like an awesome shield which can be used all the time.

And Conjurer's wording is a bit odd.

So he can conjure whenever he encounters a space with instructions to draw one or more Adventure Cards. But it has effect only if there is no card on the space gui%C3%B1o.gif

Rimmer said:

Velhart said:

Rimmer said:

Cruan said:

Your thoughts?

You think Minotaur can use a Riding Horse and receive bonus up to 12 during his next battle? That would be pretty much imbalanced, hes still good even so, from the start, before he gets stronger, hes got Str from 5 to 10 in almost every battle, not bad, not bad.

I think the answer is hidden in the text on the Minotaur's card itself:

Whenever you are about to engage in battle during your turn, you may stampede and add the result of your movement die to your Strength until the end of the battle.

So... when Minotaur rides a horse, he adds the result of only one chosen movement die. Not a whole movement roll.

But the horse is not his own movementgui%C3%B1o.gif

So he can't use his stampede move..

Minotaur can better not ride a horse thenlengua.gif

I disagree about this one lengua.gif IMHO it is his movement die and his movement. Some clarification would be useful.

Even if it was his movement die. which is very weird, because the horse moves, and not the minotaur, you still roll 2 dices! gui%C3%B1o.gif

The ability from the minotaur is only reading as one die.

And choosing a die is not written in the text..lengua.gif


guciomir said:

Dragon Rider is the weakest character. He/she basically has just 1 ability , +3 attack vs dragons which is rather weak since dragons are scarce. Second ability, mounting a dragon is also unimpressive. Sure it gives a very nice movement capabilites, and warrior like ability is nice to have. But this is at a cost of 1 strength point from the trophy which near the end game may be quite valuable.

I don't think that he is the weakest character.

Dragons will probably appear more often than before, and getting a +3 against dragons can gain him easily a strength point with some luck

On top of that, gaining movement and combat abilities are more important for him than gaining 1 strenght.

You only need 1 dragon follower, and you are ready to go.

So he has actually 3 abilities, but it's all about dragons.

Don't underestimate the power of the dragon riderdemonio.gif

We must wait until we can see how many dragons there are in the deck.

Rimmer said:

And Conjurer's wording is a bit odd.

So he can conjure whenever he encounters a space with instructions to draw one or more Adventure Cards. But it has effect only if there is no card on the space gui%C3%B1o.gif

Why is it odd?

she can also conjure on a draw 2 card space.

She brings a card to her space, and after that, she must draw the second cardgui%C3%B1o.gif

Just to clarify, the artwork for Conjurer and Dragon Rider shows that they are both female characters.

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Archdruid said:

Just to clarify, the artwork for Conjurer and Dragon Rider shows that they are both female characters.

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I have not seen the face from the Dragon Rider yet happy.gif

It was only a sketch, so i could not see it so good..

Womans are still good fighterslengua.gif

I think that if you play with the Domain of Dragon ending, the Highland will become a more important region than before.

Highland don't have so many enemies, but a lot of objects, and if you draw objects, then you must place a card from the Cadorus deck on the Highland deck.

Sounds fun to megran_risa.gif

If i look to the pictures from gencon, The dragon lord Grilipus has strength 10 and craft 14

His dragon rage is dangerous for non casters.

Dragon rage: Discard one of your spells, if you do not have any spells, lose a life instead...demonio.gif

Dragon rage is nice, but if you are strong enough, then dragon rage will not be used..

Velhart said:

I have not seen the face from the Dragon Rider yet happy.gif

It was only a sketch, so i could not see it so good..

Womans are still good fighterslengua.gif

Just for you Velhart I have themed today's update on Talisman Island around the women of Talisman: The Dragon!

Thanks Jon gran_risa.gif

The Dragon Rider artwork looks amazing!

Conjurer is funny with the rabbit in the bag lengua.gif

The last pose of the Dragon Priestess is nice.

...and now it's the turn of the boys... and cattle...

http://www.talismanisland.com/

Looks like the Fire wizard has some dragon clothes, same as dragon priestess

The way he release his pyroblast, does me think about ryu from street fighterlengua.gif

Minotaur and dragon hunter are nice.

Talisman the dragon expansion is already 3 weeks on the boat..

I hope that FFG will recieve it next week or sooner..

The boat must not sinklengua.gif

No new Spells in this expansion makes me kind of sad though. sad.gif

Oh well, there's always the next small expansion I suppose. gran_risa.gif

Talismaniac said:

No new Spells in this expansion makes me kind of sad though. sad.gif

Oh well, there's always the next small expansion I suppose. gran_risa.gif

We already get 168 dragon cards.gui%C3%B1o.gif

If other type cards would be added, then the dragon deck would be decreased.

Each dragon deck has only 56 cards each..

I wonder if it is enough, if you play with the domain of dragon ending..preocupado.gif

Velhart said:

Talismaniac said:

No new Spells in this expansion makes me kind of sad though. sad.gif

Oh well, there's always the next small expansion I suppose. gran_risa.gif

We already get 168 dragon cards.gui%C3%B1o.gif

If other type cards would be added, then the dragon deck would be decreased.

Each dragon deck has only 56 cards each..

I wonder if it is enough, if you play with the domain of dragon ending..preocupado.gif

True, true. And I'm not knocking FFG in any way, but a few extra Spell cards would have been nice as well. Oh well, I'm not complaining whatsoever. I'm very excited about the Dragon cards and what they might contain. Spells can wait until next expansion, it's time to bring on the dragons now. lengua.gif

Talismaniac said:

Velhart said:

Talismaniac said:

No new Spells in this expansion makes me kind of sad though. sad.gif

Oh well, there's always the next small expansion I suppose. gran_risa.gif

We already get 168 dragon cards.gui%C3%B1o.gif

If other type cards would be added, then the dragon deck would be decreased.

Each dragon deck has only 56 cards each..

I wonder if it is enough, if you play with the domain of dragon ending..preocupado.gif

True, true. And I'm not knocking FFG in any way, but a few extra Spell cards would have been nice as well. Oh well, I'm not complaining whatsoever. I'm very excited about the Dragon cards and what they might contain. Spells can wait until next expansion, it's time to bring on the dragons now. lengua.gif

I wonder if the next expansion will be a small expansion or a big expansion, because we are already in august.

Velhart said:

I wonder if the next expansion will be a small expansion or a big expansion, because we are already in august.

Small or big doesn't really matter, as long as we do get another one around new years eve I'll be happygran_risa.gif

Now let's enjoy the time of Dragon and speculate on future expansion theme.....

Cheers

I saw some new cards preview at boardgamegeek.

Here are the descriptions on some:

Dracolich

Enemy - Dragon

Craft 10

If you are defeated, in addition to losing 1 life, place 1 life counter on this card. If the Dracolich is defeated and has any life counters, it is not killed and it loses 1 life counter instead. It remain here until it is killed.

Village Raid

Event

Draw 4 cards from the Dragon King's deck and place them faceup on the Village (discard any Events without resolving their effects), then discard this card.

Temple of Varthrax

Place

The Temple will remain here for the rest of the game. The dragon cultists demand an offering: discard 1 of your followers. If you have none, lose 1 life instead.

Looks like the Dragon Expansion will be though :)

Old Master said:

Velhart said:

I wonder if the next expansion will be a small expansion or a big expansion, because we are already in august.

Small or big doesn't really matter, as long as we do get another one around new years eve I'll be happygran_risa.gif

Now let's enjoy the time of Dragon and speculate on future expansion theme.....

Cheers

Hey Old master!

I agree.

It would be nice to see another expansion before christmas. gran_risa.gif

I must still wait for the dragon expansion, until it has arive in my country.

I can't wait!

Have you seen the text from the domain of dragon ending? awesome!

Anyway, we can still look forward to the 2 other corner boards

Greetings, Velhart

Nidhögg said:

I saw some new cards preview at boardgamegeek.

Here are the descriptions on some:

Dracolich

Enemy - Dragon

Craft 10

If you are defeated, in addition to losing 1 life, place 1 life counter on this card. If the Dracolich is defeated and has any life counters, it is not killed and it loses 1 life counter instead. It remain here until it is killed.

Village Raid

Event

Draw 4 cards from the Dragon King's deck and place them faceup on the Village (discard any Events without resolving their effects), then discard this card.

Temple of Varthrax

Place

The Temple will remain here for the rest of the game. The dragon cultists demand an offering: discard 1 of your followers. If you have none, lose 1 life instead.

Looks like the Dragon Expansion will be though :)

I have seen the cards.

It looks like that the dragon expansion will be dangerous.

Dracolich looks like the zombie dragon from the dragon expansion.

Village road looks cool, but what happens if there is no dragon king yet?! (earlier in the game)

Temple of vartrax is pretty dangerous. no one will land theredemonio.gif