When using Magister Illyrio's passive ability, "You may play attachments from opponents' discard piles as if they were in your hand." may I play a shadows card into my shadows area? Or would it be marshalled into my opponents shadow area?

Example of how I think it works:

In my opponent's discard pile is a VB. I use Illyrio's ability to play it as if it was in my hand into my shadows area. I may bring that out of shadows at the appropriate time BUT if I use its response once it is in play then it would go back into my opponents shadow since FAQ 3.29 states that "When a card leaves play for any reason, it always returns to its owner's discard pile, dead pile, hand, deck, or shadows area (depending on the specific circumstances).

ZombiePrime said:

ZombiePrime said:

So does that mean Crown of Meereen would have the same effect? If I can take control of an in-play Venomous Blade (only possible in melee really), it would return to my shadows area when I lose a challenge?

perpetual noob said:

It would return to your opponent's shadows area since it is leaving play but since it is a response on a card you control you can decide not to use VB's response.

My question now is do OOH shadow cards have a gold penalty for putting them into play?

My inital guess is no based on City of Shadows say that you pay 1 ADDITIONAL gold if the card is OOH.

perpetual noob said:

ZombiePrime said:

The better clue that there is no OOH gold penalty imposed on bringing cards out of Shadows is the fact that all the non-neutral ones are all "House X only," limiting them to a particular House by rule rather than by the usual cost-benefit analysis.

About Illirio. If the attachment is an out of house attachment(and not a shadow attachment as you are answering in this thread), you have to pay the penalty in gold for the OOH card, haven't you?

KyK said:

can i ambush FK in opponent's discard pile?

db123456 said:

I would guess yes you can. Remember to apply OOH if any applies.

Nope, cause Ambush is a put into play effect.

Hmmm... It looks as if me being up at 1:30am is affecting my reading and missing the words "put" and "into" on ambush. Good catch Skowza.

db123456 said:

But you could pay the gold to actually play it, rather than using influence and the Ambush keyword.