Question on the timing of gate openings

By Pseudonym, in Arkham Horror Second Edition

Hi all,

A little question regarding timing that came up recently:

I know the timing for Mythos card resolution, but I'm wondering of the specific timing for the gate opening part. What is the order of the three parts:

i) Gate opening.

ii) Monster emerging.

iii) Doom Rising.

The reason I'm asking is that in my last two games against Hastur, the final gate opening also might have caused a terror level increase (which, as you all know, makes a bit of a difference for Hastur).

In one game, the gate placing the 13th doom token on Hastur's sheet also caused a monster to appear who would have been the 5th in the outskirts (in a 4 investigator game).

In the other game, a two gate card appeared, opening the 7th gate (one over the gate limit for that game), and causing a monster surge at the same time.

What would you rule in those cases?

Thanks.

The opening of the gate causes the doom token to be placed. This would happen (and battle would immediately start) before the monster emerges.

Thank you Tibs. At least sometimes things don't go in favor of the AOs...

Alternately, you could declare that the doom token and the monster get placed simultaneously, and then you would have the ability to resolve the order however you choose.