Hi, if i have this Agenda in play, when can I claim power?( dominance, renown, Eddard Stark in play, undefended intrigue and power challenges,...)

Thanks

You can only claim power for your house card durring Military challenges. This includes unopposed power, the power from the agenda, and any other card effects that would claim power for your house.

Other than this, you can still gain power for renown and move power from your opponent's house to yours if you win a power challenge.

You do not get power for unopposed intrigue or power challenges, or for dominance.

Thank you, just like I thought...

Deathjester26 said:

Keep in mind these cards effects must be triggered within the respnse window during a military challenge. If not, they are not "during a military challenge" and cannot claim any power for your house. Just wanted to clarify.

In short, you cannot take power out of the power pool and put it on your House card for any reason, except in the duration of a military challenge.

You can move power from one card to another or take power out of the power pool and put it on a card other than your House card at any time.

ktom said:

So, in a power challenge, you aren't claiming the power from your opponent's House card (even though the amount that you take is based on the claim value of your plot card) but just moving it? And, as such, you can, even with a Siege of Winterfell deck, still get power from power challenges? Wow, been doing that wrong.

TheLarz said:

When power is "claimed," the total amount of power on the board increases.

Well, that's useful to know; thankee.

what happens when you initiate a power challenge against an opponent who has no power on their house card? also you said you can only claim power during the challenge phase, doesnt the winner of the dominance phase receive 1 power for their house card?

Drew Tuzson said:

You get 0 power

Drew Tuzson said:

yes but they cannot claim it if they are running the Siege of Winterfell agenda

Drew Tuzson said:

Drew Tuzson said:

Without the Agenda, then yes, winning Dominance is an example of claiming power.

ok, sorry im such a noob, but to clarify. if i am playing a game with no agendas there is no point in initiating a power challenge unless the opponent has power on theri house card or cannot contest the challenge. otherwise, regardless of the claim, i would receive 0 power. so, to my understanding until players start to build power from dominance or uncontested challenges, power challenges are not an efficient use of my characters. is this correct? again sorry im such a noob, just got the game yesterday and something are wicked foggy for me. thanks for all your help!

That's it, if people don't win power and opponent can defend, you will not gain anything! Except that player have to defend (so kneeling someone) or let you claim an unopp power.

And you know unopposed chalenges are not rare and Dominance win by opponent too.

But there are other way to claim power to your house, like some plots or event or loc^^

Drew Tuzson said:

You are correct in your understanding. Attacking an opponent with no power on their House in a power challenge isn't particularly efficient. However, remember that you can get power for winning unopposed or though Renown on your characters. Or you might have "after you win a power challenge" effects you'd want to use. So "efficiency" is likely to be something you define in the moment rather than in general, but for the most part, yes - people (especially the First Player) tend to pass on their power challenge in the first round unless they can get a cheap "unopposed" or have some other effect that activates after winning a power challenge.

IIRC, you can use Response effects that claim power after you win a military challenge, right?

thank you to everyone for helping me understand!

Xenu's Paradox said:

The Agenda itself is one such Response, after all.

Wnem eddard Stark(LoW) comes in play does he claims?

SummerSeaCaptain said:

"You cannot claim power for your House except during a military challenge."

When Eddard claims power, Eddard claims the power, not your House. So the Agenda card does not apply.

And as far as I understand, I claim 2 powers when I win a military challenge as the defender, too. This card seem a little unbalanced...what are the possible strategies of defense against a stark deck running this agenda?

I'm another player playing siege wrong. Never knew moving power between cards was not considered "claim". Thanks for the question and the clarifications. this is awesome.

SummerSeaCaptain said:

1. Don't initiate military challenges you can't win.
2. Beat the crap out of them with intrigue challenges.
3. Use plots like Uneasy Peace, Lineage and Legacy, and Muster the Realm! to make it harder for them to initiate military challenges.
4. Icon manipulation, kneeling effects and other things that make characters unusable for challenges.

And a whole host of other things. It's there if you look for them.

what about siege of winterfell and brienne?

Brienne stops the player from activating the Siege. There was a thread that dealt with this, I think. Maybe a search of the forums would retrieve it.

Here are the issues with Brienne and Siege.

You cannot cancel Agenda effects by definition (according to the FAQ), so there is a knee-jerk response to think that Brienne doesn't work on the Agenda. However, as the1andonlime points out, Brienne doesn't actually cancel anything. She prevents you from triggering things in the first place. So she does prevent the Agenda.

She's a great way to deal with a Siege deck.