Can anyone shed some light on the rumour/ruling i heard that Chinese Boxing...

E Commit: Commit one of your opponents foundations. It may not ready during your opponents next ready step.

... can be used, as i heard it, to target an already commited foundation, but still not allow said foundation to ready during the next ready step?

babelfish666 said:

Also relevant to this ruling is the status of Darkness Blade:

If Chinese Boxing can target an already committed foundation (therefore committing a foundation that is already committed), does the E on Darkness Blade simply re-target the same card during the Enhance step (mechanically "committing" the same, highest difficulty card multiple times)?

I was going to ask that once i had a ruling on chinese boxing lol. Ah well, a united front (of 2 people!!!!) is better i suppose

babelfish666 said:

My thoughts exactly. It made far more sense to reply to your post than to start a new Darkness Blade / Chinese Boxing / commit thread.

I'm really hoping this is not the case and Darkness Blade does not succumb to poor wording. Here's hoping

babelfish666 said:

You can't commit an already committed foundation, therefore chinese boxing won't work on a foundation that you did not commit with the effect of chinese boxing itself. And if the first half doesn't get fulfilled, then the second half doesn't work either because the "it" referred to in the effect of chinese oxing is the foundation committed by the effect. And I believe Darkness Blade's enhance creates a floating effect that triggers each time the condition is met. Therefore, every time the condition is fulfilled the game state would look for the highest uncommitted foundation on your opponent's side and fulfill the effect.

This is why i asked about chinese boxing first, because if what i heard about chinese boxing is incorrect, then there is no need for debate on darkness blade.

kilik850 said:

***STAMP****

Antigoth said:

Happy days!

Thanks.

Additionally, in the case of DBlade and China Box, DBlade's floating ability will commit a foundation (floating effects take priority), then the opponent may respond to the E, you respond to that, etc. You don't actually choose a foundation to commit until Box's E is actually resolving. Therefore, DBlade can never commit the one that China Box would have been committing...if that makes sense =/

It does make sense, but that is not what the question was about. Thanks for playing though

Note that to commit a foundation is defined in the TR as taking a ready foundation and turning it sideways, so you cannot commit a foundation which is already committed.

Otherwise your whole foundation base would in theory be fair game for re-committing-while-already-committed for passing control checks. :]