(1) how does the timing work on the "lord commander of the kingsguard" title -- specifically, if a player declares a challenge against an opponent and goes on to declare stealth, and the challenge is subsequently redirected by the title, does the attacker have a chance to re-declare stealth?

(2) can a player pop two copies of LoW catelyn stark into play via her triggered ability in the same challenges phase? if so, then i suspect that the second copy attaches to the first as a dupe, which would allow for the player to use the dupe to save her from being returned to hand at the end of the phase -- is that correct?

finitesquarewell said:

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The redirect ability on Lord Commander of the Kingsguard occurs during step 2 (save/cancel) of the resolution of the Framework Action Window in which stealth targets are chosen and defenders are (not) declared. It cancels the initiation of this Window, and reopens the Player Action Window between declaring attackers (now against the new target) and assigning stealth.

To clarify, if an opponent doesn't declare defenders after stealth is assignd you can redirect the challenge against you. "Actions before stealth" are taken again, stealth is assigned to characters you control, and then you declare eligible defenders.

finitesquarewell said:

Yes, and the second copy would attach as a duplicate; however:

(2.6) End of the Phase
Each end-of-the-phase Framework Action Window should be played without step two (Save/Cancel) and without step five (Responses). No triggered effects can be played after the initiation of the end of the phase.
“Until the end of the phase” lasting effects expire in step 3 of the “End of Phase” framework action window.
“At the end of the phase” passive effects initiate in step 4 of the “End of Phase” framework action window.

Since effects can't be triggered, the duplicate can't be used to save her and it would just go to the discard pile.

~ Wow. Two question answered directly out of the FAQ....

ktom said:

~Yeah, the only thing worse than a noob is a lazy one

FATMOUSE said:

ktom said:

~Well, according to some of my European compatriots, he's only some kind of Downtown Indianapolis town champion anyway. You probably don't need to read FAQ's for that.

Ratatoskr said:

~One has to be a rocket scientist to understand all those rules... oh, wait...

Ratatoskr said:

lol

~and yet for all this well-deserved teasing, i can't imagine this is the last time i'll decide to take 15 seconds to post seemingly obviously rules questions on the forums that would take me 2-3 minutes of searching the FAQ -- you guys are pretty efficient

finitesquarewell said:

~and yet for all this well-deserved teasing, i can't imagine this is the last time i'll decide to take 15 seconds to post seemingly obviously rules questions on the forums that would take me 2-3 minutes of searching the FAQ -- you guys are pretty efficient

finitesquarewell said:

FTW < 15 seconds formala:

forum signature link to FAQ + ctrl-f + *typed word or two* = "oh yeah, that's how it works"