Agree on the Pycelle matter. It really looks like having a seperation on the Restricted List between Joust and Melee is a good idea. I wonder if there's anything else at the moment that would go on that list for Melee?

kpmccoy21 said:

Let's not forget about the South. TN regional is same time as Kubla. rough counts are 12 to 16 with 5 to 8 being players that have not yet competed at another regional.

orclrob said:

Whatever counts you got add 3 to 4 to it

I'm sorry about Indianapolis guys... but If you come back Italy you don't go to Milan THAT HAS NOTHING... but you go to Florence, Venice, Rome, Naples...

If Gencon would be in San Francisco... I moved there every year :-)

SORRY DOUBLE POST

@Twn2dn: Thx for the offer. I would love to come to black friday tourney this fall. Do you know already the date? Hope it is not in november cause I have Stahleck.

holy derailment, batman! this thread needs sky marshals to stop the hijackings.

Fieras said:

In fact we DO reports of our regional on this board each year. I posted my decks here when I won them. In two weeks you will have our reports, like each year...

You can although come and see our decklists on our board: letronedeferjce.forumactif.com/c1-maisons , there are many.

fhornmikey said:

Hello "Hodor"... Have you meet sarcasm? I do sarcasm too

Katagena said:

The only appropriate response I can come up with to this is "Hodor."

On a side note, I have been looking at the forums Ser Arthur posted, and google translate does some very interesting things for French >> English, my personal favorite so far: Here is a brief report of my two part melee in Madrid... Second party against two stark and rapeass
On the left are my mistake was to avoid an alliance with rapeass we'll have helped to win more easily.

Still, plenty of useful information, even if my French isn't so good...

Gualdo said:

Yeah Gualdo: the date will be Friday November 25th. Its a always a fixed day - the friday after the American Thanksgving holiday. Its really nice in NY at that time - the holiday decorations are just going up and the season is just getting started. The venue is rigth off Times Sqaure and smack in the ahert of the city. It would be great to see you.

Fieras said:

Fieras said:

Luckily for me English is not a problem and luckily for you, I have a bit of time at work, so I can translate a few things from the french forums if you guys want. Regional stats will be quite easy for now as we've only had one so far, in Lille, a city in northern France. So here are the numbers.

Joust: 23 players

Stark: 8 (I said Northern France )

Martell: 5

Lannister 4

Bara: 3

Targ: 2

Greyjoy: 1

Top 8:

1-Myself, Martell, Brotherhood

2-Arbhast, Lannister

3- Astro, Targ, Kings of Summer

4- Salarcus, Martell

5-Pekeumok, Greyjoy, King of Winter

6-Ser Aran, Lannister

7-Nuggetz, Bara

8-Direwolf, Targaryen, Hollow Hill

Melee: 19 players

Stark: 5

Targ: 4

Baratheon: 5

Lanni: 4

Greyjoy: 1

Martell: 0

Top 4:

1-Chgros, Targ

2-Astro, Targ, Brotherhood

3-Myself, Baratheon, Kings of Summer

4-Rapeass, Stark, Siege

Concerning restricted cards, I unfortunately don't have access to the breakdown, so cannot post it here sorry. All I can tell you is that I ran VB in my Martell build and Fury in my Bara melee deck.

In can post more results as they come in if you want.

Sorry Kalindas, i post all in european tournament just before seeing your post...

I try to see if i can find some stats from french forum about last tournament of may

Stag Lord said:

The week after stahleck... indeed would be a great 10 days... I will manage to be there... maybe arriving directly from frankfurt and spending a week in NY...

Time to plan ;-)

Gualdo said:

Dude, this would be so awesome. I'd definitely come down for that. Let me know if you can end up swinging it.

I guess you can then load up on coney island frankfurters.

Since I'm not going in holiday this summer, I can save some money for that ;-)

After 18th june (our nationals) I will start watching fo plane offers

It would be an honor to host you.

I don't know about the hot dogs - it will be chilly the last weekend in November, but you won't starve in NY. i can promise that.

Kalindas, do you have the full breakdown of agendas for all 23 players?

Look at european Tournament, i post all results

What, more people in the N. French tourney played Joust than Melee? At least there is ONE thing we can agree on

Now that I have offended the other half of the boards, the only thing I am missing is the reasoning behind why FFG would move their Worlds from a couple of hours away, to across the Narrow Sea.

Isn't any of the Euro's here business-people?

You either:

Spend a crap-load of $$ to have a tourney across the Sea every 3-4 years (making most likely your largest and most profitable base of people angry, the domestic market).

Or...you give away OP quality control in the 'Worlds' and maybe piss off your fans in domestic and many other non-domestic places (why isn't this in China? Eastern Europe? That one guy in Australia?).

I really feel for our Euro friends. I do, it sucks. ~As much as it sucks to see a 100-year-old castle that is supposed to be important in the US...so send us a bunch of your 1,000-year-old ones please!

The writer is US, the company that got the rights is US, the distribution network is US - trust me if the international competative market meant enough in $$'s, they would do something about it.

I just can't see the reasoning to move from the largest gaming conference in the World (right?) hours from their HQ for 200 (?) Euro competative players. Heck, we are lucky they put anything on at all here!...*shrug*

For the "World" thing, i stop hijacking...

But for melee, You have to know that it's on friday, and that explain the problem ^^ In addition, lot of people who just begin the game in May want to play in the N. French, but never play melee before^^

Gencon Indy is not the most largest and important event.

It's Essen, in Germany

Why made the "World" in Europe? I don't say all years. Just one year on two.

Why Europe? Because in fact, we can make a biggest tournament than "your" world. Because there are player in Europe too. Because "agot" are not only "your"

rings said:

...I'd like to point out that the only "Euro's" (man that sounds wierd to me, since it's the same as our currency) complaining about this are the proud French.

Speaking as a more pragmatic "Euro", I really think the only reasonable course in modifying this would be something like what finite suggested. And I'm not really even convinced anything needs to be done about the matter. If it takes away from getting new cards or delays the next box-expansion, I'm against it.

That said...

rings said:

Fact or supposition? (just curious)

rings said:

I'm sure someone would be up for this, if the price can be arranged.

rings said:

I'd be REALLY surprised if the competative market meant enough money anywhere, really...

rings said:

True, but changing the names around a bit wouldn't really cause financial problems, and neither would letting the Stahleck Overall champion and Melee Champion also design a card. (I'm thinking this costs the same, independent on where the designer lives, since I assume the process is done through email anyway) Yep, that's right. I said Melee.

To expand on the Essen Germany thing..

The convention is called Spiel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiel) and typically has over 130 000 attendants. I'd be surprised if FFG doesn't already have a presence there, so hosting a world champs there now and then shouldn't be that much of an extra cost for them.

I'm not that bothered either way. I doubt I'll ever play this game competitively anyway.

somehow i got the feeling that i should join here and add a few cents (being the one organizing the often mentioned stahleck-event):

first let me say: i just hate talking in terms like "us europeans" and "them in the USA". maybe it doesnt qualify me much to organize "europes biggest event", still the thing i like most about Tourneys and Thrones is the game itself, the players, the competitiveness, the whole athmophere making you feel special (thats what prizes are good for). calling it Worlds helps to advertise, but it wouldnt mean anything to me if i would be winning that specific tourney.

but then, there is Worlds in the USA, which is a misleading title also imo. after all it is not (and probably never will be) possible to have a real World Tournament, where all the best palyers of the world (dont forget the east!) will be able to compete in ONE tourney. so having a wandering "worlds" wouldnt be the solution.

i´d rather go with titles like "Stahleck Champion" or "GenCon champion". we all know this means a lot. those who care which was the bigger tournament, will find the info in the reports.

also keep in mind: in 2012 world will be invaded by masses of aliens and elder gods and other strange beings. what will the title of "world championship" mean then, when we finally understand, that there are millions of worlds out there?

btw: i HAVE been traveling to the USA, mainly for playing cards (but that was for MECCG - still my biggest love cardwise ;-). and that was a great experience. and i am also thinking of GenCon, if only i had the money and time ...

about FFG´s (lack of) love for europe:

indeed i also would like to see more suport of course. i was happy that stahleck champ finally is able to create his champion card. thats the coolist price anyway. iirc there is always some special prizestuff handed out to those playing at gencon. europeans do not have access to that, which is a pity.

on the other hand, it would be cool if we get the chance to create our own specific prizes for the stahleck event. alas we did not.

then, its VERY exensive nowadays to get the price kits here in europe. shipping doubles the price and there is goinf to be 20% customs. so in the end i have to pay 25 euro (which is more than 35 us$) for a 15$ prize kit. same for the regional kit: instead of 150$ its is 250 euro (=355us$).

thats the reason why many smaller countries (that means less AGOT players) are not having official FFG-approved regionals. so with an expected turnout of 15 players, paying 17 euro (024 us$) to enter a tourney is too much even for some experienced players. needless to mention any new player is not interested, since he wont have any chance to win (see the downward spiral here?!)

there are going to be more "inofficial" regionals all over europe, so the overall number of regional players here is much higher. but anyway: this whole "which continent has more players" competition is moot.

dont forget: 21. dec 2012 is coming!