So in the midst of trying to build a deck for regionals i was considering where the Queen of Dragons box helped put Targ in terms of Rankings

So if Lanni Kneel and Martell Viper are considered two of the better builds where does a Targaryen Dragon or a Targaryen Burn deck rank against the field? is a dragon deck to fragile? is a burn deck still too slow? any feedback would be welcomed

Im trying to convice myself that running a Dragon deck for This weekend isnt the worst idea in the world

It would be a fun deck to play. However my friend has yet to beat me with the one he built, against my Tully deck, my Stark Army deck and my Baratheon Asshai rush deck it has lost every time. I am considering building one but used most of my Targaryen stuff to build a Dothraki deck.

If you are comparing the dragon deck to lanny kneel or martell, then dragon isnt the best choice.

Lanny kneel and martell icon control thrive against decks where there are only a few really good characters.

If they kneel out your dragons, you aren't going to win.

Since those 2 deck types are common I would say Targ dragons has a bad matchup this year.

I am undecided on burn and/or dothraki. I would say they will do better than dragons but are still underpowered.

You guys are not giving me the confidence to run a dragon deck, what about dragons are cool looking and i wanna yell you have woken the dragon during the tournament?

I'd respond to that, but it would be a spoiler.

Fieras said:

By spoiler I assume you mean books/show and a crown ?

Dragons are cool, no one can disagree with that but I don't see it as a very strong deck type. Dothraki on the other hand is great.

I think the box helped Targ a fair amount. I'm not sure that a Dragon deck is the best against the top tier decks yet though. If the Dragons were used with additional mechanics to support them, Pyat Pree, Blue Lipped Warlocks, Ambush (and Ambush from the plains), and of course some Burn, I think you could probably build something that would surprise a lot of people... but if you count on your deck just being three dragons, hatchlings, and Danerys, I think you are looking at a number of losses.

Toqtamish said:

Yeah, specifically a crown.

Fieras said:

Episode 6 FTW!

Burn has been always quite effective against Lannister. And a good way to beat Martell is to zombify their Viper's Bannermen with Rhaenery's Hill (maybe with Regroup to replay the hill).

I don't think it is that bad of a matchup (kneeling). You have to meta a bit (anti-ally stuff), and put in the 'stand all creatures' event. Boom.

My problem is deciding to use Dobbs agenda or not. I really think it is an auto-loss vs. Fear of Winter, but other than that, I have had good success.

rings said:

That's the same problem I have when I think about building with it. I guess I want to see more competitive decklists and find out how popular Fear is after the Restricted list. It seems like the easiest "add" if you don't have one of the other's going on, but most decks seem to have a reason for using another one.

Seeing the decks in MN I'd say Fear of Winter is seeing drastically less play. Plus, with the advent of Forgotten Plans (still a great play vs. many decks, heart hitting Blockade) Hollow Hill is one of the safest agendas out there.

Here you have a burn list that won a tournament two months ago in madrid: ciudadeladeantigua.blogspot.com/2011/03/targaryen-el-imperio-del-fuego.html#more

It's in spanish, so you will need translation of some cards if you are really interested. The creator of the list says that in his opinion (and I agree with him) the best agenda for targ burn is the summer agenda. Knights of the Hollow Hill has potential but is too unstable, and not only against fear of winter.

Of course this list has to be actualized with cards from Queen of Dragons.

Hey Thanks a lot, ive been looking for a nice template for a burn deck for some time

matamagos said:

Thanks for sharing. From what i can read with my eighth grade Spanish, that looks pretty sharp. I'll examine the rest later, but as of now, I think I'm going to start referring to The Titan's Bastard as Bastardo del Titan.

My most successful deck was always my Targaryen Summer/burn deck. Although Knights of the Hollow Hill and now Heir to the Throne are both attractive agenda choices for Targaryen, Kings of Summer consistently shores up the house's biggest weakness of card draw. Yes, the Blue-Lipped Warlock/Shade of the Evening combo is going to be nice, but perhaps not as consistent or easy to maintain. Also, why not use both? BLW/SotE doesn't count against draw cap (from what I can tell) and will help your Summer induced draws to be that much better.

I'll admit that adding in the cards to make it summer means you might have to do without some of the neat tricks Targaryen has, but at least with the attachment manipulation, more specifically recursion, it's easier for Targaryen to keep it Summer than for any other house to maintain a season (always my biggest problem playing Stark Winter/Shadows.)

With Queen of Dragons out now, I'm thinking that Dragons/Summer is going to be a fun and perhaps viable, if not dominant, deck choice. With the addition of some nice Summer-synergistic cards, more ambush (the new dragons), and some excellent locations (particularly Kingsroad Fiefdom for the initiative/influence combination...Oh how I have missed you)

So for what it's worth Jack, I, a mediocre dilettante plan on playing Targaryen Dragon/burn.