Conspiracies and Story Cards vs. The Well

By mischraum.de, in CoC Rules Discussion


Rule Question:

The Well:

Each player chooses one story card he has won (except this one) and shuffles it into the story deck. Then destroy all Day and Night cards in play.

I trigger The Well. My opponent has won one story card and I have won no other stories and one conspiracy. Am I right that I can't choose the conspiracy because actually it is not a story card.

A conspiracy acts like a story when in play but isn't one. Also a won story/conspiracy is not in play. Am I right here?

Answer from Damon:

You cannot trigger The Well if its effects cannot be resolved at the moment of initiation. You and your opponent must both have a won story other than The Well in order for you to trigger it. Conspiracy cards may act like story cards when they are in play but once won and taken from out of play would not be able to be chosen by The Well's effect.

Won Story Cards and Conspiracy Cards are not considered in play.

Damon Stone
Associate LCG Designer
Fantasy Flight Games

Hi all,

I'm still new to this game, but this isnt how I have been playing this card, and I'm worried that I may have been playing other cards wrong.


So, this means unless you can fulfill the condition, you cant trigger the ability - this sounds a bit odd and I need to read more to understand it. I vaguely also remember reading some rules where if something says "discard 2 cards" and you only have 1, you dont discard any....

Is there something in the rules / FAQ that I can refer to to help me understand why this is the case. I do understand that the word "then" is important, and that you cant do whatever it says after the word "when" until all the conditions before have been met.

But, if a card says "Each player discards 1 card from hand", and one player has 4 cards in hand, with the other player having no cards in hand - are we saying that he cant play the card?

Damon sent me a second answer to my question. This might clarify some things for you. The thing is you have to resolve an effect as much as possible. Theres is an entry regarding Julia Brown in the FAQ and it says if you have only one card to discard you have to discard that card.

And now to Damon:

I want to clarify this, I've mistakenly applied the rule to the wrong part of the card. Happens to everyone eventually.

The Well does allow for you to have a single player to shuffle a won story card that is not The Well. The word Each means that the first part of the effect will attempt to resolve on each player. If one player does not have any won story cards then the result fizzles on that player alone. The second part of the effect is a "then" statement though, which means the entire first part must have resolved successfully (on both players) in order for it to continue resolving.

Right.. That makes a lot more sense. However, someone in another thread told me something different :)

So - Each part of the first effect could fizzle. This means that the Well CAN be triggered if only one player has any won stories. However, both players have to lose one story in order for the second part of the effect (after the word THEN) to kick in.

Pretty sure in another thread, someone said that you cant activate the Well unless both players have at least one won story card.

Paul Grogan said:

Right.. That makes a lot more sense. However, someone in another thread told me something different :)

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Paul Grogan said:

Right.. That makes a lot more sense. However, someone in another thread told me something different :)

So - Each part of the first effect could fizzle. This means that the Well CAN be triggered if only one player has any won stories. However, both players have to lose one story in order for the second part of the effect (after the word THEN) to kick in.

Pretty sure in another thread, someone said that you cant activate the Well unless both players have at least one won story card.

Doesn't really matter who said the other thing (it may have been me even). Damon is the designer for the game so he pretty much has the last word when it comes to rules.