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i cannot show statistiques for copyright. i made a list of ship. In the topic "list of ship"

Speed : 1 orion star clipper; 2 exchequer class, 3 Carrack class transport, 3 Vagabond class merchant tarder, 3 Loki class q ship, 4 Jericho class pilgrim vessel, 4 Goliath class factory ship, 5 Universe class mass conveyor

Detection : 1 exchequer class, 2 Orion star clipper, 2 Carrack class transport, 2 Vagabond class merchant tarder, 2 Loki class q ship, 3 Jericho class pilgrim vessel, 3 Universe class mass conveyor, 4 Goliath class factory ship

Armour : 1 carrack class ; 2 exchequer class, 2 Goliath class factory ship, 3 Loki class q ship, 3 Vagabond class merchant tarder, 4 Jericho class pilgrim vessel, 4 Universe class mass conveyor, 4 Orion star clipper

Space : 1 Universe class mass conveyor , 2 Loki class q ship , 2 Jericho class pilgrim vessel , 3 Vagabond class merchant tarder, 3 Exchequer class, 3 Orion star clipper, 3 Goliath class factory ship, 4 Carrack class transport

Weapon Capacity : 1 Goliath class factory ship, 1 Universe class mass conveyor, 1 Jericho class pilgrim vessel, 2 Vagabond class merchant tarder, 2 Loki class q ship, 2 Carrack class transport, 2 Exchequer class, 2 Orion star clipper

Manoeuvrability : 1 orion, 2 Exchequer class, 3 Carrack class transport, 3 Vagabond class merchant tarder, 3 Loki class q ship, 4 Goliath class factory ship, 4 Jericho class pilgrim vessel, 5 Universe class mass conveyor,

Hull integrity : 1 Universe class mass conveyor, 2 Jericho class pilgrim vessel, 2 Goliath class factory ship, 3 Carrack class transport, 4 Exchequer class, 4 Vagabond class merchant tarder, 4 Loki class q ship, 5 Orion star clipper

Turret ratting : all

Raider

Speed : 1 Viper class scoot sloop; 2 Meritech shrike class cruiser; 2 Iconoclast class destroyer; Hazeroth class privateer; 2 Cobra class destroyer; 2 Wollfpack raider, 3 Havoc - class

Detection : 1 Viper class scoot sloop, 2 Meritech shrike class cruiser, 3 Hazeroth class privateer; 4 Iconoclast class destroyer, 4 Havoc – class raider, 4 Cobra class destroyer ; 4 Wollfpack raider

Armour : 1 Meritech shrike class cruiser, 1 Havoc – class raider, 2 Cobra class destroyer, 2 Wollfpack raider, 3 Iconoclast class destroyer, 3 Viper class scoot sloop, 3 Hazeroth class privateer

Space : 1 Havoc – class raider, 2 Wollfpack raider, 2 Cobra class destroyer, 2 Hazeroth class privateer; 3 Meritech shrike class cruiser, 4 Iconoclast class destroyer, 5 Viper class scoot sloop

Weapon Capacity :1 Iconoclast class, 2 destroyer Wollfpack raider, 2 Cobra class destroyer, 2 Havoc – class raider, 2 Hazeroth class privateer, 2 Meritech shrike class cruiser, 3 Viper class scoot sloop

Manoeuvrability : 1 Viper class scoot sloop, 1 Cobra class destroyer, 1 Wollfpack raider, 2 Havoc – class raider, 2 Meritech shrike class cruiser, 2 Iconoclast class destroyer, 3 Hazeroth class privateer,

Hull integrity: 1 Hazeroth class privateer, 2 Havoc – class raider, 3 Cobra class destroyer, 3 Wollfpack raider, 3 Meritech shrike class cruiser, 4 Iconoclast class destroyer, 5 Viper class scoot sloop

1 meritech 2 all other

Frigate

Speed : 1 sword, 1 tempest class, 1 falchion class, 1 claymore class, 2 Firestorm class frigate, 2 Turbulente class heavy frigate

Detection : 1 sword class, 1 Firestorm class frigate, 1 Turbulente class heavy frigate, 2 Falchion class, 2 Tempest classe, 2 Claymore class corvette

Armour : 1 Turbulente class heavy frigate, 2 Tempest classe, 3 Falchion class, 4 Firestorm class frigate, 4 sword class, 5 Claymore class corvette

Space : 1 Turbulente class heavy frigate, 1 Tempest classe, 2 sword class, 2 Firestorm class frigate, 3 Claymore class corvette, 4 Falchion class

Weapon Capacity :1 Falchion class, 2 Claymore class corvette, 2 Turbulente class heavy frigate, 2 tempest class , 2 sword class, 3 Firestorm class frigate

Manoeuvrability 1 sword class, 1 Firestorm class frigate, 2 Turbulente class heavy frigate, 2 Claymore class corvette, 2, tempest class, 3 Falchion class

Hull integrity: 1 Turbulente class heavy frigate, 2 Firestorm class frigate, 3 Turbulente class heavy frigate, 3 Falchion class, 4 sword class, 5 Claymore class corvette

Turret ratting : 1 sword 2 all other

Light cruiser

Speed : 1 all others, 2 Conquest Star Galleon

Detection : 1 Dictator class, 2 ambition class, 3 all others

Armour : 1 lunar, 1 tyrant, 1 dictator , 2 ambition 3 conquest star galleon

Space : 1 Tyrant class cruiser, 2 lunar cruiser, 2 Ambition class, 3 Dictator class, 4 Conquest Star Galleon

Weapon Capacity : 1 all other, 2 Conquest Star Galleon

Manoeuvrability 1 Ambition class, 2 tyrant class, 2 lunar class, 3 dictator class, 4 conquest star galleon

Hull integrity: 1 Dictator class, 1 tyrant class, 1 lunar class, 2 ambition, 3 Conquest Star Galleon

Turret ratting : 1 dictator, 2 lunar class, 2 tyrant class, 2 ambition class, 3 Conquest Star Galleon

Cruiser

* see book for variants

Speed : 1 all others, 2 Conquest Star Galleon

Detection : 1 Dictator class, 2 ambition class, 3 all others

Armour : 1 lunar*, 1 tyrant, 1 dictator , 2 ambition 3 conquest star galleon

Space : 1 Tyrant class cruiser, 2 lunar cruiser, 2 Ambition class, 3 Dictator class, 4 Conquest Star Galleon

Weapon Capacity : 1 all other, 2 Conquest Star Galleon

Manoeuvrability 1 Ambition class, 2 tyrant class, 2 lunar class, 3 dictator class, 4 conquest star galleon

Hull integrity: 1 Dictator class, 1 tyrant class, 1 lunar class, 2 ambition, 3 Conquest Star Galleon

Turret ratting : 1 dictator, 2 lunar class, 2 tyrant class, 2 ambition class, 3 Conquest Star Galleon

Battle cruiser :

Speed : 1 chalice, 2 all other

Detection : 1 all

Armour : 1 mars (prow), 2 overlord, 2 armagedon , 3 chalice

Space : 1 overlord, 2 chalice, 3 armageddon, 4 mars

Weapon Capacity : all

Manoeuvrability all

Hull integrity: 1 Chalice, 2 Armageddon, 2 Mars, 3 Overlord

Turret ratting : all

Grand cruiser

Speed : 1 all, 2 exorcist

Detection : 1 all, exorcist

Armour : 1 avenger, 2 exorcist, 3 repulsive

Space : 1 exorcist, 2 all

Weapon Capacity : all but avenger has less possibilty to land a hit.

Manoeuvrability 1 repulsive, 2 avenger, 3 repulsive

Hull integrity: 1 all, 2 exorcist

Turret ratting : all

I made a comparative board between all class of ship as a help for player who don’t know what to chose. I didn’t choose to retain the sp because it s too variable.

All : means same values. In somme case the emplacements of gun can have somme importance

They are classified in decreasing order.

I'm sorry but i can't really help you unless you clearly state what you wish to accomplish as a Rogue trader Group.

If I understand well, he wanted to rate each ship among it hull type, by caracteristic : ie, the fastest transport, the best-armoured cruiser, etc...

from france

as i said it s not accomplish anything. it s just a help as mordekai pointed out i "rate each ship among it hull type, by caracteristic". like that if a player wants to choose the most manouevrable and fatest transport this rating can help him.

at least i made it for this purpose. for exempale a player want a jack of all trade ship but good and capabable transport the exchequer class is a good choice because it is often at second position sometimes first and more ralely third position.

thereore it is a good choice. the player wants themost heavily gunned transport he can choose a pilgrim and so on.

well i hope it will be useful.

Thanks for sharing.

from france

you re welcomme at least somone who appreciate

Yeah, very nice work, 8 Spider, thanks. Will come useful. Would be even better if you made it into a PDF document, or some other format (XLS, or some such).

tell me If I'm wrong, but it is the same entries in the Transport & Raider categories : ie, the transports are missing.

also, do you intent to make such a comparative board between categories ? For instance, the Orion is in fact better raider than raiders themselves : as fast, cheaper, it got more space available for components and include already a Main Cargo Hold. The icing on the cake ? 1 keel weapon slot. Sure it can't have a lance, what a pity... what, someone tells me that lance are underpowered when compared with a good old salvo ? Nevermind then !

from france

thank for you and thanks i didn't notice the mistake so it ihas been corrected. yes i am sticking to the categorie because if it could help i will show the board themselves because they are much more useful and clearbut i think it will breal copyright so i can't.

i will be happy to convert it in pdf but i don't know how

okay this time everything is correct.

the 8 spider said:

You can try a PDF creator such as this one: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/

I'd recommend making these lists in excel (easier to read) and then converting them into a PDF. That should do the trick.

And yes, thanks for the effort!

from france

thank lynata. i will try but without excel because i don't know how to use it. if anyone is interested he/she can make it. if necessary you can also use my post for the list.

i know that the help it provides his limited for example it doesn't show that the lathes class have a very poor detection systeme and no specific item for exploration making it a poor "exploration ship" a shame for it's purpose. it doesn't show that the exchequer class dorsal and keel weapons make it a formidable opponent to ship of equal size.

i see the orion as good blocade runner but also as good raider hunter. a prey that hunt it 's predator. i have a preference for the exchequer.

and some transport with hold landing bay can be a nasty suprise a orion with such equipement can be the terror of raider.

i made a ship, a pilgrims class "the turtlle" never use it because i don't know if i made mistake but it has macro batteries on port and starboard torpedoes on the prow and a hold landing bay. thank to my roll i got "wolf in sheep clothing" making the torpedoes and the hold landin bay hidden. i believe it to be a good hunter raider. in fact it's bakground says that it is used in convoy waiting for raider and wiating to launch his torpedoes and figter/bomber.

i will show it if you want you could tell me in i made mistake. i make it in reaction to the post about systems descibed in "Into The Storm" i dot not like it to so i simply roll with the board in the core rulesbook.i choose a transport because the rogues trader warrent is new and he is holding his sp for expanded his fleet.

i like transport more than raider and frigate because of the hold landing bay. im thinkig of house rule giving a pilgrim transport two hold landing bay removing sport and starboard weapons slot and changing the prow for a dorsal slot. it will be close to the carrier transport in bfg.

well sorry for changing subject in my own topic but it is to illustrate the usefulness of the comparative board.

If I may, to help save you some time, direct you to my own thread. I've already compiled all the hulls and components into an excel sheet. If you'd like, I can take out the ship parts and just shoot a ship reference your way that you can turn into a PDF.

And here's the thread itself: http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp?efid=123&efcid=3&efidt=472617

from france

thank i believe than this kind of help can only lead to a better cooperation. unforunately for me i still don't know how to use excel.

but thanks again

oh i finished to re engenring the the exchequer class if any one is inteterested i put it on the forum because there is still outhere. i just change name becauase of copyright.

Essential component Power 40 Space 40 Sp * Archeotechnologies/ precision
Drive + 40 - 8 3 * archeo
Warp engine -10 -10 0
Void shield - 5 - 1 0
Field against the warp -1 0 0 Name too close for copyright
Life sustainer - 2 - 1 2 *archeo / Name too close for copyright
quarter - 1 - 3 0
auspex - 4 0 0

Supplémenta componen Power Space Sp archeotechnologies
Weapons - 4 - 2 1
Ar thruster - 4 0 2
T maze - 1 - 2 2
O Dome 0 - 1 1
E S vault -1 - 4 2
M C hold - 2 - 4 1

total Used 35 Used 36 Used 14 2 piece of archeo

Appart for the archeotech essential component wich can be replaced all other are free to choose however i think that the main cargo hold is a obligatory choice for the suplemental component.

All elements are in the core rulebook

it is possible to build one without archeotechnologies.

an example below.

Essential component Power 40 Space 40 Sp
Drive + 40 - 10 3
Warp engine -10 -10 0
Void shield - 5 - 1 0 0
Field against the warp -1 0 0 Name too close for copyright
Life sustainer - 3 - 1
quarter - 1 - 3 0
auspex - 4 0 0

Supplémental component Power Space Sp archeotechnologies
Weapons - 4 - 2 1
Ar thruster - 4 0 2
T maze - 1 - 2 2
O Dome 0 - 1 1
E S vault -1 - 4 2
M C hold - 2 - 4 1

total Used 35 Used 39 Used 12

sorry if the columns are not rightly placed.

i hope it will help and please