I was wondering how much people enjoyed Black Sepulchre, It looks like a cool story, Esp for my Battle Sister.

It really does? Why so?

from france

the most badly boring written adventure i read in 20 years of gaming. i tend to share the point of wiew with gregorius wo had tried to rewrite part of the story. the saddest is that in has a lot of good idea for nothing. experienced character will face no worhty opponents. the intrigue ...... well not sur what to said about. it s again the fate of the sector and after how the harlock trilogy floppy end i because bored with the "fate of the sector "syndrome.

"spoiled" a imperator titan that walk by itself in turning a key ( it s almost that).......

the only thing that is good is for the gunbunnies. a basic weapons closed to the nomands.

well that my opinions and it may not be the same with everyone. i hope i am wrong on the appreciation of the adevnture but for my slf it will rest in the library.

We've reviewed it at length, in short it offers a little bit for everybody. It starts with heavy combat, you investigate a haunted house, then you get to fight some daemons in psychic combat. That's grossly simplifying it, but it kept my players happy as all of them had something to do.

It starts with a strongly railroaded combat encounter, the following "investigation" is a dungeon crawl at its worst (including ghosts and puzzles), and then...well, then it gets worse...

It's the worst thing ever published for DH and I can confirm (and sign) what 8 spider said (i.e. "the most badly boring written adventure i read in 20 years of gaming"). Even the unpoular fifth part of the Doomstones campaign, Something Rotten in Kislev and Drachenfels (all WFRP 1st ed.) in combination where far better than this waste of paper and money...

Luthor Harkon said:

Ooops. Although we deeply liked Something Rotten in Kislev (perhaps due to us being from Russia ), I fully understand your concerns over Doomstones and Castle Drachenfels. And you (and other people) say that the Black Sepulchre is even more... that's disappointing.

However, I must admit, that the FFG weakest adventure so far (to my taste) was Purge the Unclean trilogy (perhaps the Joyous Choir being a bit more decent due to some kind of a detective plot). I cannot realistically believe that anything else could be as linear and predictive.

I sincerely hope that Matt knows what he's doing.

But Black Sepulchre has such good cover art, surely it must be a good adventure. .

Minor thread hijack: what is the best adventure or series then?

I'm currently a player in Tattered Fates, and most of the other players are newbies so it's keeping me involved because to some extent they're following my lead, but I am also keen to run something.

If not Black Sepulchre, then what chaps? Best FFG adventure? What about the many fan written adventures that are around? Is there already a thread for this?

doh!... not checking if there is another thread before posting is heresy!

ZAP ZAP ZAP!

Zakalwe said:

Edge of Darkness

Damend Cities

Tattered Fates

Rejoice for you are True

The House of Dust & Ash

In that order.

The only true series is the Haarlock Legacy and it is quite okay even if the end is lacking somehow. Purge the Unclean cannot really be considered a series in my opinion.

Zakalwe said:

I recommend a few of fanmade adventures on the FFG site. Some of them are worth taking a look (there are only six of them at all).

Also, there are very good adventures on Dark Reign. I will strongly recommend Leave No Stone Unturned : it has it all: solid detecitve plot, fights, devious traps, space travel. However, I have not yet run it with my crew, as we are in the middle of Haarlock's Legacy.

I wonder if the next 2 books will make the first one worth it

Luthor Harkon said:

Really ?

I can hardly imagine how it can be worst than Maggots in the meat.

I haven't played or GMd it, but I thought Shades on Twilight looked pretty good.

egalor said:

Ooops. Although we deeply liked Something Rotten in Kislev (perhaps due to us being from Russia ), I fully understand your concerns over Doomstones and Castle Drachenfels. And you (and other people) say that the Black Sepulchre is even more... that's disappointing.
However, I must admit, that the FFG weakest adventure so far (to my taste) was Purge the Unclean trilogy (perhaps the Joyous Choir being a bit more decent due to some kind of a detective plot). I cannot realistically believe that anything else could be as linear and predictive.

Well, we had a lot of fun with the Doomstones (though we left out the horrible 5th part) and also even with Drachenfels as I involved them to a greater epic campaign that my players are still talking of about with a sparkling in their eyes more than 10 years later.

Regarding Purge the Unclean, one must say these are three adventures that decrease in quality chronologically. We are in the midst of Baron Hopes at the moment and it is even harder to GM/play then I expected beforehand. Though it was clear to me from the beginning that it is the weakest of the three, I recently (and falsely…) got the impression it has some potential (even if only for the ending).

DarkLoic said:

Well, it's hard to compare and I must admit our group had a lot of fun with Maggots in the Meat (of course you have to beef it up a little as a GM). Maggots in the Meat was just some sort of leaflet in the GM's Screen though, so I never had the expectations I had in regard to a hardcover book and first part of a new DH campaign like BS. Even moreso because the overall meta plot of the campaign sounds rather promising. My main problem with BS - besides others - is that it seems so restrictive in what the PCs can do and it furthemore seems rather difficult (at least to me) to pimp this adventure in any way as a GM due to this overall restrictiveness of the environment at any time.

Luthor Harkon said:

Luthor has exactly written out my own list as well.

Though I disagree with him elsewhere - the 5th part of the Doomstones is the best bit! And I think people are a little harsh on the Black Sepulchre. I have a thing for 'weird stuff going on' adventures.

I actually quite liked Black Sepulchre after reading it. Especially the first half. To each his own I s'pose. Its ultimately in HOW you run the adventure, I think. I agree that "Drachenfels" is The worst constructed adventure of WHFRP or any other RPG for that matter.. But I read all the Drachenfels literature (novels etc...) And I used that information in my Drachenfels adventure and used the "setting" of the adventure (his castle) as the backdrop. And to this day we look upon that adventure as the most enjoyable and memorable of them all... Good times. I'm in the middle of "Shades on Twilight", and I'm doing that one the same way. With a lot of work I'm using its linear format and taking advantage of that and making it more like "Apocalypse Now" as a disturbing journey with many more encounters thrown in along the way...The horror... The Horror.

Oh, I found "Edge of darkness" is great for just picking it up and playing it. Same with "House of Dust and Ash". Athough the last battle can potentially be difficult for the G.M. to manage.

DarkLoic said:

Good point, sir! It is not worse the MitM... and it is not worse then Shattered Hopes . But imho it surely does deserve some "flaming". Even if one get´s a little carried away with it.