Yes, it was a silly topic title.
This is my Hot dog turret, I just couldn;t get into the original, however historically accurate it may have been. The barrels are made from bits and pieces of extra Dust models, but mostly from two heavy flamers from a Warhammer 40K Rhino kit, each itself modified in terms nozzle placement and fuel hoses.
I am missing a machine gun somewhere, so I'll have to scratchbuild something out of parts on their way.
Nice, certainly looks better and more menacing than the original.
Nice weathering. And yes, the twin heavy flamers certainly look very fierce. Good job on the base too.
Nice paint and basing! Not a huge fan of the Hot Dog's flame cannon myself.
I am of the official stance that I need a shirt with some sort of geek reference to the Pounder being the coolest thing ever. I'm not a fan of the Hot dog, however, while playing through scenarios, I have found a few with at most 3 square range. Lots of terrain blocking los, so a Hot dog is what you want. Plus, I had three more turrets than chassis, it was a second thought project.
I have been considering removing the tank on the back of the turret. Flame tanks for the most part had their fuel inside and armored up to protect from a explosion. Having in on the back of the turret to me is just a fireball waiting to happen. Might be better on the walker to mount it on the rear of the chassis.
its part of the fluff having it on the outside . but i agree , though at the same time i am kinda partial to it on the outside to add some outside flash , otherwise its to much like the pounder .
Yeah, I believe the fluff mentions something about it being jettisonable at a moments notice, and it does pick out the model by having an additional piece on it, however bizarre it may seem to have a 100 litre drum of HIGHLY explosive material slung on your mech without so much as zimmerite on it... Wow, thats an idea... I'm going to model my next mech with Zimmerite, (though it was typically Germans who used it in defense of russian magnetic charges.)
Thats purty sweet (odd, i didnt notice this pic on the gruppe). I had considered useing the newer style heavy flamer (IG) with cowling or maybe those flamers from the BA super flamy thing. The one you did looks very beefy.
Oh and the british towed their flame fuel canisters behind their tanks.
It might actually be safer with the fuel outside than in. If its at the back then its out of sight for most tof the time and if an enemy is on the flank, he's going to blow you up anyway. Now, if its inside and a stray bit of shrapnel hits the tank when its on the inside <BOOM>
Actually, despite what hollywood wants to tell you, flamethrowers aren't that explosive. Yeah, if you were hit with an explosion or maybe a dedicated incidiary round, it might go off, but jellied petroleum is actually quite stable and needs a substantial spark to ignite, and the gas canister was often just pressurized, nigh non-reactive nitrogen.
The biggest danger a flamethrowerman, or even a flame tank, faced was that everyone wanted you dead. It's why most flame tanks had false barrels, the less obvious you are the more likely you won't get singled out.
As for the flame tank being on the outside, it actually does make some sense. While it might be at greater risk of being shot up and leaking, tanks (and by extension fictional walkers) deal with enough fire from explosive shaped charge rounds, or even just explosives (I.E. satchel charges), that it would be more dangerous to the crew to have that fuel stored inside, where it could potentially combust after being hit with a AT round and suffocating/immolating everyone inside.
Leutnant_Manfred said:
Actually, despite what hollywood wants to tell you, flamethrowers aren't that explosive. Yeah, if you were hit with an explosion or maybe a dedicated incidiary round, it might go off, but jellied petroleum is actually quite stable and needs a substantial spark to ignite, and the gas canister was often just pressurized, nigh non-reactive nitrogen.
The biggest danger a flamethrowerman, or even a flame tank, faced was that everyone wanted you dead. It's why most flame tanks had false barrels, the less obvious you are the more likely you won't get singled out.
As for the flame tank being on the outside, it actually does make some sense. While it might be at greater risk of being shot up and leaking, tanks (and by extension fictional walkers) deal with enough fire from explosive shaped charge rounds, or even just explosives (I.E. satchel charges), that it would be more dangerous to the crew to have that fuel stored inside, where it could potentially combust after being hit with a AT round and suffocating/immolating everyone inside.
oh now dont go bringing things like reality into this
GrandInquisitorKris said:
Leutnant_Manfred said:
Actually, despite what hollywood wants to tell you, flamethrowers aren't that explosive. Yeah, if you were hit with an explosion or maybe a dedicated incidiary round, it might go off, but jellied petroleum is actually quite stable and needs a substantial spark to ignite, and the gas canister was often just pressurized, nigh non-reactive nitrogen.
The biggest danger a flamethrowerman, or even a flame tank, faced was that everyone wanted you dead. It's why most flame tanks had false barrels, the less obvious you are the more likely you won't get singled out.
As for the flame tank being on the outside, it actually does make some sense. While it might be at greater risk of being shot up and leaking, tanks (and by extension fictional walkers) deal with enough fire from explosive shaped charge rounds, or even just explosives (I.E. satchel charges), that it would be more dangerous to the crew to have that fuel stored inside, where it could potentially combust after being hit with a AT round and suffocating/immolating everyone inside.
oh now dont go bringing things like reality into this
Oh why not? I could go on and on about how, with the possible exception of manueverability, tanks are superior in every way to a mech. Yet Dust Tactics has such an immersive, thought out design that I can suspend my disbelief. It's details like that fuel tank, and research into real-world paper prototypes of the war, that makes me sit back and think that for a world with such a crazy premise, the people who designed it truly wanted to make sure it still made sense. And that goes a long way to endearing me to every part of the Dust Universe.
Unlike 40k, which uses multi-gun tank designs that were phased out as downright useless 70 years ago.
I'm a self-studied WW2 era weapon buff, I used to breathe this stuff
Manfred, actually, I rather enjoy your discourse on the subject. It does bring a breath of reality to the Dust universe and makes it more believable (except for the zombies and gorillas of course). The stuff you shared will stick in my head and will definitely be brought up in my next battle. Thanks for sharing.
traderghost said:
Manfred, actually, I rather enjoy your discourse on the subject. It does bring a breath of reality to the Dust universe and makes it more believable (except for the zombies and gorillas of course). The stuff you shared will stick in my head and will definitely be brought up in my next battle. Thanks for sharing.
if zombies werent real i wouldnt have dragonbreath rounds for my mosberg bullpup shotgun !
i also have flechet rounds for when the apes come calling !
GrandInquisitorKris said:
if zombies werent real i wouldnt have dragonbreath rounds for my mosberg bullpup shotgun !
i also have flechet rounds for when the apes come calling !
LOL
it looks great.
Very nice indeed, I might have to borrow this idea, there seems to be a distinct dislike for the original barrel.