The card says if you're outnumbered or facing a physically larger opponent. If the owner of this action is a dwarf troll slayer, do this mean he can use it against human since humans are taller than dwarves????

TheSon said:

Aye, sorta the point of the action card, is to be used by Dwarves I think, because pretty much all creatures are bigger than them

Interesting thing is that the card say Physically Larger and not simply taller.

A Human is not physically larger than a Dwarf, he is just taller, just as a lot of halflings are not physically larger than dwarf, just heavier It is even more noticable when comparing an elf and a dwarf.

So, for me, Physically larger mean significantly more bulky, like a large orc or beastman or giant creature.

Ask the trollslayer, "Do you feel small next to that human"? if they do, we know the reason for their shame and taking slayer oath....

As it's called troll-feller strike I rule that physically larger does not indicate humans or elves, but rather large creatures such as trolls, giants, dragons, wargors, deamons.

But then again you can use troll-feller strike at goblins if you are outnumbred by them.

It depends on your GM, but what the others have said is essentially true. If your dwarf feels like his human opponent is "larger" or more powerful than him, he should. However, in most cases human are not essentially larger than a dwarf. They might be taller, but a dwarf is broader and more solid, typically weighing more than most humans. As such, in general, only humans of immense proportions (and described as such) would fit the category of "larger".

I think that "physically larger" means that the opponent 'stand up token' is larger than yours: that applies then, in the Core Box Set, only toTroll and Giant

Galdor said:

I thought so too in the beginning, but there are many monsters that should be considered to be "physically larger" than dwarves/humans/elves. War Gors and Black Orcs for example. So I guess it's a lot up to the GM and how he/she describes the enemies)

If it's only when facing "large standup"-monsters (and when outnumbered) the action would be far to narrow in it's usefullness.

Troll Feller Strike is a cool action, but breaking out the meter stick and chalk to measure a monster isn't really thematicly "with it" imo. Individual group tastes and GM Fiat being what they are, is it that hard to be out-numbered when not facing Trolls, Giants, Rat-Ogres and Daemons?

Sure trying to be outnumbered is a poor choice for someone that wants to live long-term, but Slayers aren't supposed to live long term. A Troll Slayer that manages to somehow survive to Giant Slayer should be a sign that a player is either lucky or backed up by some other good players that have managed to keep them alive. Troll-Feller Strike (for my take on it) fits with the theme of a slayer as written, and if you have to question weather or not something qualifies as large then it probably isn't (if your group decides that Labrador Retreivers qualify then kudos). Luckily a player that has Troll-Feller Strik burning a hole in their pocket only has to make sure they are in a fight with any two foes on the planet to qualify as outnumbered (two halflings, a 13 year old human and an old lady, etc). That doesn't seem too narrow to me (opinions being what they are and all).

I think referencing the standups is a super easy benchmark, but as always your mileage may vary (and that's groovy too).

Ivan Kerensky said:

This is funny... so the halfling isn't physically larger than a dwarf... just heavier. What is he made of? lead?

Ivan Kerensky said:

While halflings tend to be fat ... much of the reasoning why dwarfs are so naturally strong and tough is that their muscles and bone are denser. So, while most dwarfs aren't what you would call fat, they are still generally stocky/broad for their build, while also having dense muscles and bone. I doubt that a halfling, even a really fat one, would weigh more than a dwarf.