Xathess Wolfe said:
Fideru said:
But heck, let them go all munchkin. That's the problem with D&D, there never is any consequenses for your actions because its always down in some dungeon or abandoned tower. The heroes never deal with goblin females or goblin children, the Wizard never has a family inside his tower, and the demon is always terrorizing the family and collateral damage is always contained.
The consequences of actions should be made clear by any good GM I agree, I often have bystanders, innocents and bad guys with families etc - makes it more real Player reactions should then be in character ...................
Interestingly the one time I encountered the aforesaid goblin females / children in a D+D game - it broke the game and caused a 3 hour discussion.
We had killed some goblins and then found the females and children - now playing a young and fanatical Paladin - I said ok do they detect as evil? - thinking they would be neutral or similar - yep says the GM, OK does my religion consider all Goblins Evil? yep - so they die - much to suprise of everyone. (I don't usually play Paladins or D+D)
Upon which I loose my Paladin powers which I object to in the context of the game, character etc - long long discussion on the problems of having detect evil, what is evil etc etc...............I have never been a D20/D+D fan and this whole session did not help.